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Old 09-07-2019, 07:17:44 PM
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The big Christies antique show was just around the corner this morning. Did not buy much, but ended up with this Moto Meter. First time I ever saw one for sale. It was not really something in my mind, but seemed too neat to leave behind.
Original box, papers, instruction booklet,tote bag, and extra standard dial. The dial in the meter has some sort of Masonic-looking symbol. Not sure about that? Was that a car make symbol? The one little sheet shows a variety of car symbols one could buy.
I think I'll use it on the GS&M Beaver tractor. It should look neat. Either that, or it will be just something else to go in the auction when I tip over!
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Old 09-07-2019, 07:24:17 PM
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The guy was asking $145. I asked his best price. He hummed and hawed and said $115. I wasn't really sure I wanted it, so I thanked him and said I'd think about it. I wandered through the rest of the show, had a sausage on a bun mit kraut, and stopped back on the way out.
I said I could give $100 even. He winced and came back with $110. Said he paid $80 for it and go find another in the original box and all the papers. I said yes. Have no idea what they are worth - doesn't matter, it is here now and probably to stay until tip over time.
Glad it came home. It is a neat little item!
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Old 09-07-2019, 07:54:31 PM
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That is awesome, I'd say you did very well! Is there any dates on the literature? Can we get a clearer pic of the paper with all the optional dials on it? It's blurry and I can't really see what they are. I know they made a dial for Allis Chalmers, I've seen pics of two of them I think. Very rare. I never thought about changing the dial though, so that is a interesting revelation. I could find a meter and have the new dial made. I'll need them for my 20-35 longfenders someday. Thanks for sharing!

Edit: Here is a pic of the AC one I'm talking about.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/342484...96346/?lp=true
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Jacob,
Here are scans of that card. Hopefully, it will show up better.
That will look great on your A-C.
The only thing that resembles a date is on that card - 6-19. On the bottom of the box, it gives the price as $10. So that would be a real luxury item back then.
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Thanks! They really went the extra mile, providing the option for a free dial if the customer wanted. Very cool. Like you said, 10$ in 1920 would be over 100$ today with inflation, so it was a spendy little unit!

Yes I'd LOVE to find one of these AC dialed Boyce Moto Meters! But that is probably not going to happen. I'll have to get some dials made up some day. I have some time though, as I'm years away from having any of my longfenders running at this point, LOL! You just never know, it's all about the hunt right?!
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The dial in the meter has some sort of Masonic-looking symbol
Masonic star
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Old 09-07-2019, 09:11:15 PM
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Not a Dodge Bros is it?
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That is REALLY neat!

My '31 Ford pickup has one of those on it. The trouble is, I can't read it from the cab!

I don't know when it was installed. It was originally the city of Alhambra fire chief's truck, so could be the fire department installed it. My great grandfather bought the truck in 1941...

I'll have to copy all of your photos so I have the literature too....

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Not a Dodge Bros is it?
This is the Dodge Brothers logo.

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Masonic star
Specifically, it's the Shriner's logo.
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Specifically, it's the Shriner's logo.
Maybe it goes on one of those lil parade model T Fords.
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Maybe it goes on one of those lil parade model T Fords

Something like this one?
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That is a good find being an original with the original packaging & literature.

The Boyce Motometers are still made & available in 2 sizes.

https://www.restorationstuff.com/eco...&cPath=103_105

The same people show a list of many car makes whose emblems can be on the front face.

A Motometer is a great addition to any old car or truck in that it actually gives you the operating temperature. If the red fluid is 1/2 way up the round hole a model T is just right. A T works best when the water is just on the verge of boiling.
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I have three of my tractors with Motometers. They are on 1934 and 35 John Deere model A and Bs. The Motometers and the cast mounts are listed in the Deere parts books and were available from the dealers on tractors. This was before the factory offered temp gauges on these models.
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Have seen on Twin City tractors. Cast rad cap was drilled. Have a cap but Motometer sheared off.
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The 1919 Twin City I restored a few years ago had the drilled cap so I installed a new MotoMeter on it.
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Had to make an adaptor for this Moto Meter for a local restoration (back in NY before my move to Co). I don't think he had the original cap that it could have been put on. After he got the truck finished he told me the meter worked like it is supposed to.
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Nice work!
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That is one unique radiator PFT!
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The original finned tubes had steel fins, being in NY there was nothing but FeO2 on the tubes. He found the new ones at some industrial supply and had to solder the old ends onto the tubes. They were quite expensive, but what else can be done to save such a great radiator design and piece of engineering history.
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