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Old 07-15-2005, 10:41:56 AM
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Default Kinnard-Haines Flour City

Does anyone have any photos or info on the various models of Kinnard-Haines Flour City tractors that were produced, and where to see surviving examples?

Of the old tractor makes, this one seems to be one of the hardest to find any information about. Have there ever been any articles in magazines about the company and its tractors?

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One expert about the Kinnard Company is a member here...Bruce Flatmoe of Inver Grove Heights, MN.
He's SURE to see your post and respond....sooner or later.
I'll bug him about it....
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In the meantime......go here:

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David,

I've got some photos, but will take awhile to locate them. A good friend of mine, Carl Mehmke has one in his collection.
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Default Re: Kinnard-Haines Flour City

That would be great - I've heard about a 40-70 in the Mehmke collection, but never actually seen a photo of it. If you have any other photos of his tractors I would love to see them too!

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Here is a photo of the Flour City at the Little Log House Show in Hastings, MN
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Thanks Wayne, I've never seen or heard of this one before! Do you know which model it is by any chance?

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David,

I'm planning on visiting Carl in September.

Hope to play with some of the tractors while we're there.

In the mean time I'll try to remember to look for some of the pictures I've taken at Carl's place over the years.
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Default Re: Kinnard-Haines Flour City

There used to be a Flour City shown at New Rockford, N.D. I haven't been there for several years, but am thinking of taking my dad there this year. Won't be for another six weeks though.
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Here's a picture of Carl's Flour City
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At least two in Kansas Dan Crist and Jerry Toews both own Flower City tractors.
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Do you have any pics of those tractors Dan?
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Dan's tractor in Kansas is a 40-70 I believe. He's been working on it, so it is pretty well torn down if I remember right. Dan has a very impressive collection of good tractors like this. I'd like to have a FC, but all I have are some sales catalogs on them. They are tough to find, but engine books are even tougher. I have a picture or two out of my catalogs on this computer somewhere, if I can find them, I'll put them up.

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I heard rumor of a single cylinder Flour City tractor in the mountains of Oregon or Washington. Has anyone seen this tractor or better yet a picture. I have an original 1904 tractor catalog. Kevin
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Default Re: Kinnard-Haines Flour City

David I don't have pics. Dan's is a work in progress but quite impressive in its current state. There is a picture of Jerry Toews' tractor in your post on Pioneer tractors. Dan
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Default Re: Kinnard-Haines Flour City

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I heard rumor of a single cylinder Flour City tractor in the mountains of Oregon or Washington. Has anyone seen this tractor or better yet a picture. I have an original 1904 tractor catalog. Kevin
It's no rumor...it is there...VERY early one on which the flywheel rims almost reach the ground.
Good luck trying to get a look at it though....
Even BETTER luck trying to BUY it...

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Thanks Dan for reminding me about the pic of Jerry Toews' Flour City.

Regarding the early Flour City in Washington, as I mentioned earlier it is featured in Richard Robinson's book on N.Z. tractors, and he includes several photos. If anyone would like more detailed information on the content of these photos then drop me an email.

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I have seen photos of the early Flour City tractor on ebay and in catalogs, but I didn't know one really existed! I would buy a plane ticket tomorrow to go see it run if I could. Must be impressive! Sounds like it's too bad that it's not at some show for the public to see. From what I recall, the tractor looks pretty much like my Grandpa's 10 HP Four City engine, except for it was 10 times bigger and had a steering wheel.

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From what I recall, the tractor looks pretty much like my Grandpa's 10 HP Four City engine, except for it was 10 times bigger and had a steering wheel.

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And the flywheels on the tractor are about as low to the ground too..
There's a story about that Washington tractor..
It seems THAT tractor was being driven somewhere and they had to drive over a railroad crossing. That worked fine until the front end dropped over the second rail which allowed the flywheel to hit a rail and cause the tractor to lose enough traction that it just stopped moving.... ....with the flywheel rubbing on the rail.
THIS part may be embellished BUT, as the story goes, a TRAIN was coming (naturally.... ) and they had to scramble to get the thing moving again....which they did.
It is SAID there are marks on the flywheel rim where it was rubbing the rail.

Pretty good story..................HUH?
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Default Re: Kinnard-Haines Flour City

Here is a photo I took of the Flour City engine at Rollag. Sorry it's not the best quality, but I think I can make out "14hp" on the label. Perhaps someone else can fill in that information, together with the year?

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16 h.p. Flour City at Rollag is owned by Jerry Swedberg. There is also a Flour City tractor at Rollag Owned by Robert Lefever and Bob Glass family. Keven
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