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Old 08-04-2005, 08:40:07 AM
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Thanks Keven for that information. Any idea of the year of manufacture of the engine (or the tractor)?

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The year on the sign is 1898.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/sba...ngines/28c.jpg

I plan on being back there this year to see what has changed since '03. It is an excellent show...poor pics from the show in '03:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/sba...003Rollag5.htm

I hope my camera is working this year (with flash)...

Here is a photo of the Flour City Tractor at Rollag

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By popular demand, here are the pics I have of the early Flour City in Washington state.

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Default Re: Kinnard-Haines Flour City

Here are some photos of the two Flour City tractors in Crosby ND. If you ever get the chance to take in the show, it is a dandy! It is on the third weekend in July every year.

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Kelly, would you happen to know which model/year the tractor on the right is? I have a photo of a similar Flour City up at the Austin Museum, Manitoba, but again I am unsure of the model or year of manufacture.

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From page 457 in C.H. Wendels book, the Austin Flour City appears to be a 40-70, first built in 1911 and available until 1927. 4 cylinder, 7 1/2 inch bore and 9 inch stroke; 21,000 lbs.
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This is the 40-70 owned by the Buckley Club in Northwest Michigan. It has the optional power steering device.
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I found the image of the EARLY Kinnard I thought I had deleted...........
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Same photo as post 37 in:
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showth...684#post721684
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By popular demand, here are the pics I have of the early Flour City in Washington state.

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She's not in Washington any more.
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The Mack Bulldog semi in that set was, I believe, sold at a tractor auction fall 2012. I know the owner/restorer from 15 years ago. I just bought an oil pump from him for our 1919 3 1/2 ton Bulldog.
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Oilpulled,
Mackenzie is here too if you're talking about the one from Defiance, OH. We'd love to know more about her history too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQW-a_xKAUU

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She's not in Washington any more.
Don't just leave us with that comment . . . please let us know what is going on with the Flour City?!?!?
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Photo Kinnard-Haines Flour City

She looks good for her age..
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Officially: I would need to be picked up off of the floor...... Congrats on wresting it free and bringing it back.
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Congrats!!! This is absolutely wonderful news!!!

I can't tell you how excited I am to know this tractor of historical significance is in great hands and will be coming back to life. I believe it is the only known surviving example of one of the earliest (if not the earliest) US tractors to be produced and sold at a significant level. Of course they weren't call tractors back then.

New Zealand has a stamp commemorating the 1st tractor imported to their country in 1904, and it's basically the same Flour City tractor but with the square cooling tank. There are also pictures of the same square tank Flour City tractor operating in the field within the 1904 Gas Power magazines I have. And other articles/advertisements indicate that they were producing these tractors years before that.

Can you tell if the screen cooling tank is original? It sure looks to be, but I can’t recall seeing any advertisements for a screen cooled version. It sure would be neat to know when this beauty was made!

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We have a guy who knows a farmer in NZ who is searching local archives for more info on that tractor. We're working on her again tomorrow. I've already got 300+ pics since Sunday and I'm resizing to post. We'll be glad to share what we find and listen to what y'all have to say about her. She will be treated with the greatest care here and cherished as the Treasure she is. Collaboration is the best way to preserve history and we appreciate each new piece of information. Thank you always for helping us fill in the blanks.
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Here's a scan of the commemorative NZ stamp.

Have you determined what size it is? I've attached a few catalog scans I've saved with some dimensions that might help.





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We have a guy who knows a farmer in NZ who is searching local archives for more info on that tractor. We're working on her again tomorrow. I've already got 300+ pics since Sunday and I'm resizing to post. We'll be glad to share what we find and listen to what y'all have to say about her. She will be treated with the greatest care here and cherished as the Treasure she is. Collaboration is the best way to preserve history and we appreciate each new piece of information. Thank you always for helping us fill in the blanks.
Hi Nikki

I might have some information on the NZ tractor. I attached a b&w photo of it, which was on the wall of a museum in NZ, in another thread but can send a larger copy if you need it.

Great to know that the Washington state tractor is finally in safe hands!

All the best

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Aww man, that ol' Washington tractor going to get proper treatment is just TOO COOL! I think I might have asked it somewhere before, but what year was that dinosaur constructed?

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