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That's not just ANY 20-40 Case Gary! At that time the tags were stamped "Case 40"................period. But the thing that made me take a GOOD look was the "high" intake manifold which is indicative of an early 20-40 and THEN I noticed it ALSO has a Pickering governor, making it a very early model.
NICE one gary...............
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I would have called it an early one, but only due to the early style radiator. Carl Mehmke has a later style, so I did know there was a difference. Other than that, I knew the owl on the basketball meant that it was a Case, as my steam engine has that also.
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This is a picture I took in 1958 at the National Cattle Congress grounds at Waterloo, Iowa and shows an 1892 "Froelich" gas tractor. Purportedly this tractor was a model of the original, not the original?
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This is a picture on the Chapin farm near Pownell, Montana and shows my favorite hill in Montana, Square Butte, in the background. There is a part of their 40 hp Reeves US steam engine and it follows an early 40-65 Reeves gas tractor plowing.

this is a picture of a 12-25 Avery gas tractor I owned back in the 1960s. This was the day we got it running. Clarence Young, near Great Falls, Montana bought it from me.

This is a picture of a Holt 75 Caterpillar in Oregon and the photo is courtesy of the late Mort Christensen.

This is a later 75 hp Holt at Missoula, Montana and used by the street department there. This is courtesy of my friend Lloyd Fagerland.
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This was the 12-25 Avery where it set in the mountains outside Helena, Montana. I got it in the summer of 1962. Notice this is a picture of an early Poloroid type, with the "smudgies" or "windshield wiper streaks" they used to have early on, from having to rub them with a felt soaked with a chemical neutralizer. Since this was long before practical home computers, eight track tapes, black & white TVs, or video disks, I thought I'd explain their picture developing process to our younger generation. I work for a school and have heard some kids have never seen nor heard of an eight track tape, due to generational timing.

This is Bob Ryffel at Choteau, Montana with his little L Cletrac. Not only does it have a high drive track, it has the "rollers" in the drive chain that drives the track.

I placed this picture here once, but in black and white. The several year old scan was in black & white. I just found this photo I took of Hart Parr #3 that I'd taken in 1964 at the Smithsonian Institution.
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This is from a postcard I own and a Montana engine, a 30-60 Big four shown backed up to some buildings. I couldn't tell if they are trying to move the buildings?

This picture is of Lewis Martin's Flour City, north of Moore, Montana, threshing with a Red River Special threshing machine. This tractor is now in the Mehmke Museum and the threshing machine is in the Tyler collection.

I already posted the next two pictures in a Caterpillar thread. This is a picture of my good friend, the late Max Tyler, and some of his Caterpillars.

This is a picture of Max Tyler's 60 hp Best Tracklayer and his 75 hp Holt Caterpillar. If I remember, the Best is a year older and is already lacking the front steering wheel.
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This is a "Big Four" 45-90, which should have been a "Big Six" since it had a six cylinder motor in it and the picture was taken in eastern Montana and was from the Mort Christensen photo collection.

This is a 30-60 Hart Parr shown seeding in eastern Montana and is also from the mort Christensen photo collection.

This is a 15-30 Holt on the belt and was taken in Oregon. This also hails from the Mort Christensen photo collection.
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This is a picture of the Advance-Rumely sales lot at Glendive, Montana. There are around 14 Oilpull tractors in the picture.

This is a poor picture of a 20-35 Big Four in Montana, seeming to be pulling a "travel trailer", more likely referred to then as a "sheep wagon."

This is a Case gas tractor plowing in Montana and very likely during WWI, as they flew flags on tractors then.

I had this one in a Caterpillar thread, but am putting it here too. It shows some of the Caterpillars at home on the Mehmke Farm in the 1980s when they still farmed with "tracks". I believe they had three D-9s and three D-8s and some of them were at home this day. Their Cats had gear drive transmissions as the power shift models wouldn't work for pulling chisel plows like the gear drive type would.
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Good GRIEF!?!?!? D-8's and 9's for farming. Must pull some pretty big implements.
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Good GRIEF!?!?!? D-8's and 9's for farming. Must pull some pretty big implements.
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I am only guessing, because I never measured one, just watched them out in the fields working back then. I would guess they pulled around 75-85 feet of chisel plow with the D-9s and around 60-70 feet with the D-8s? It was sure some sight to see. Often they were run separately in their own fields. Once in a while, you'd see a couple of them running together and that was really some sight. I would think the three D-9s could blacken a section of land in very few hours. Rubber tires have done their farming for about a dozen years now, I think... An end of an era.
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This is a picture of an 8-16 IHC tractor I took at Choteau, Montana several years ago. It has the sloped hood and radiator in the rear.

I included this picture of my son Mike standing beside an early IHC truck at Fort Benton, Montana (the world's innermost port). Notice it also has a similar sloping hood, and does have a rear radiator and the same engine as the 8-16 tractor.

This is a real nice original IHC 10-20 Titan owned by my friend and fellow NWAPA member, Jim Mattson. Jim caught Clarence Young of Great Falls, Montana on a day when he agreed to sell Jim the tractor. Clarence usually buys.

This is an 8-16 IHC Mogul tractor at Eddie's Corner, Montana and was bought by Walter Mehmke, Left. His (and my) friend Clyde Corley is in the center and the seller, Robert Hruska is at right.
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I added this picture in the rubber tire thread and it was suggested it would go better here, so now it is in both places. This is my friend Jim Mattson's Heider, by Rock Island Plow Company. It is as nice as it looks, too.
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Yeah, but that JD is STILL in the background. What gives?
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Yeah, but that JD is STILL in the background. What gives?
Monte,
How about we airbrush steel wheels on it and paint it red? I've never seen a W-6 on steel, but I'm sure they offered them?
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This is a darn poor photo of a 30-60 Rumely Oilpull taken of it and the kids on the Anderson farm east of Malta, Montana and courtesy of my friend Doug McDougall

This is a picture of a 40-80 Avery plowing in northeastern Montana, also from Doug.

This is a poor scan of a photocopy, of a postcard owned by Carl Mehmke. It shows a real early 30-60 Big Four tractor when built by the Minneapolis Gas Traction Company. This was before they put the curved top atop the radiator.

My friend Tom Stebritz sent me this picture of a later style Big Four tractor and this one had a self-starter. Notice the one lunger engine below the platform which was clutched into the flywheel of the 30-60 engine.
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This first picture is one I kiped from a page of an ancient text book I own. It shows a Moline Universal coupled to a binder. I'd never seen this sight before.

This is another picture of the Philpott farm's Rumely Oilpull at Buffalo, Montana, courtesy of my friend Bob Townsend.

This is a 30-60 IHC Mogul pulling binders in eastern Montana and thanks to my good friend Doug McDougall.
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Its a Mogul and its a 30-60 at that Check out the rear wheel pattern
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Its a Mogul and its a 30-60 at that. Check out the rear wheel pattern
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Thanks for the info. I am just passing along pictures for the reader's enjoyment. I know very little about gas tractors. That's what happens when Craig allowed a steam person to post gas pictures.
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This is a picture of a Case 40 from my good friend Doug McDougall, from over in northeastern Montana. I know nothing more about it other than it is in the belt.

This was something Max Tyler mailed me about 15 years ago. It was a photo from a photocopy of a Best gas tractor from 1903. I asked how successful it was, being kind of a steam fan and Max said it would out pull the 110 Best steam engine.

This is a picture of an Emerson-Brantingham Model Q 12-20 gas tractor Carl Mehmke owns. It appears this was where and when he purchased it.

This is a picture of what was left of an Emerson-Brantingham Model L, taken at Choteau, Montana several years ago when Austin Monk and I were passing through, coming home from a Mehmke Plow Day. That is Austin beside the tractor.
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Its a Mogul and its a 30-60 at that Check out the rear wheel pattern
The water pump is another clue that it is a 30-60 and not a 45.
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Thanks for the info. I am just passing along pictures for the reader's enjoyment. I know very little about gas tractors That's what happens when Craig allowed a steam person to post gas pictures
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Gary: Thanx for posting a wealth of photos here on the "Old lugs and Cleats" side of the board. I have to admit I was a little more than nervous when I read the subject of the thread,.........."steam men with gas" . I thought perhaps you had sampled the local chili cook off , but now I know you were talking of a different form of propulsion.

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