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The Not So Happy 'Happy Farmer' - YET!


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Old 11-16-2007, 02:18:42 PM
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And here I thought I was the only one that argued with their dad when both are tractoring at the same time....
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:43:04 AM
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I just got in a little after 10 (central time) tonight so I can’t say much other than the engine and clutch are mounted!!! Here are some shots to bring you up to speed. The first picture is of the clutch band that our friend blacksmithed new for us. Picture two is our solution to lugs (only have these on to show you) – we bought strips from Milwaukee rubber and just cut them to fit. Picture three is of the engine lifted in mid-air about to be placed on the frame. Picture four is it mounted and fit into place and is what it looked like as of 10 tonight! I finally feel like we are well into the 3rd quarter of this resurrection.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:45:22 AM
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Great to see the progress on your "resurrection". That is going to be one fine tractor when finished. Congratulations to you and your Dad.
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Old 11-29-2007, 11:10:11 PM
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Just got the original K-3 Atwater Kent coil back from the Atwater Kent Manufacturing Co. today after they restored the coil. I was amazed to learn this company was still in business and that they would be able to restore the coil using all the old parts and bits. They even were able to save the original paper cover and reuse it. The finished product was restored back to what it looked like on the day it was first produced by their company 90 years ago. If you need work done on Atwater Kent equipment these are the experts to go to!!!

Please understand though that they are old school. First off don’t look for a website because they don’t have one, next when you call leave a message (chances are good you won’t get someone, but they are good about returning calls), after that send your work to them with a detailed explanation and they will call you with the price, finally when you are ready to pay don’t ask if you can use a credit card – because they only use the check method. Like I said – old school! And if that wasn’t enough they will send your package back with a personalized typewriter typed letter with real pen signature – even the address label is typewriter typewritten!

I wouldn’t have wanted it any other way!!! There is a certain charm about receiving 1950’s style service on a 90-year-old coil from the factory that made it in the first place that ultimately is to restore a 90-year-old tractor. I think the only thing that could have made this experience more authentic, and cooler, is if I could have gone to a Western Union station and sent my instructions to them via wire with those great telegraph codes I see in old parts catalogs. At any rate, these guys are great, their customer service is great, their turnaround time is excellent, and their restoration abilities are wonderful and most important the coil is hot!

Picture one is a before and after of the coil.
Picture two is the restored coil with the personalized letter.
Picture three is an original Atwater Kent ad with distributor.

As always – stay tuned for more Happy Farmer updates!

PS – Even the guys at Atwater Kent got into the name of this tractor – as the second line in the letter says, “I am glad to say that it (the coil) is very happy and works well.” Ha – I really appreciate a good and dry sense of humor!


Here is the company’s contact info:

Atwater Kent Mfg Co.
12 Jacques Street
Worcester, MA 01603
Phone: 508.792.9500
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Old 11-29-2007, 11:24:43 PM
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Boy Randy that is cool Worcester is only 20 mins from me i didnt even know they were still there Thanks
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:11:40 AM
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That's a wonderful story for these times. It is indeed a pleasure to find companies like that that still survive in this high speed electronic age. There is no substitute for good service
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:03:48 AM
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The AK scientific ignition experience that you posted is like fitting a missing piece into a large puzzle! What a great find for you guys in your time of need. The manor and quality of the restoration that you and your father taken on will enspire other collectors for decades, thank you for such dedication in your smokstak post
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Old 12-02-2007, 10:23:18 PM
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I fiddled around for a few hours this weekend with Dad. The main focus was the transmission. We had to do a little disassembling and readjusting to get everything working smoothly, but the good news is everything slides fine and works good.

And now for the question that Craig’s been waiting for since July 13...

“How did those built up differential gear teeth pan out?
I told your Dad I expected you'd have to do a little grinding at your end once things were rigidly in place.
I want the unvarnished truth RIGHT HERE..........”


They were ABSOLUTELY PERFECT – no grinding on our end at all. Great work and many thanks again!!!

Craig, if you have any – some before, during and after shots of the head, valves and guides would be great to see on the thread.
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Old 12-02-2007, 10:56:03 PM
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Randy......you'd need a baseball bat to wipe the smile off my face right now!
Let's just say I wouldn't have bet any money on that.......

My local dude who has the valve seat grinder is in Branson, MO.......
The guides are 90% done and the valves are about half finished so it won't be much longer.......

Tell Marshal to settle down in his retirement........retired........yeah.......right. ......
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:39:20 AM
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Boy that thing looks great i really like the lugs some people like the the steel ones but if they ever drove or loaded a trator with the rubber lugs i think they would change there minds.
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Hey Randy.......

Here's the state of things at present.
The old valves were ground to a razer edge and have too much stem wear to build up the heads and re-use them....... ......and the guides are in equally sorry condition.
The guides need only to be finished on an arbor for a press fit and finishing the valves is pretty straight forward now.......
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Craig I just wanted you to know that Marshal is very pleased with the head project. He told me tonight, “They look good, just like the originals, that’s what I like.” I agree – nice work.

As for tonight’s post, I just thought I would show off the fenders. After much consideration, my father decided that the best course of action for the fenders and gas tank would be to take them to his nephew’s body shop and have them painted up there. This way it was just easier, we did not have to worry about trying to get things moved around and covered up in the shop. Plus, my cousin Dave always does great work – you can see for yourself in the pictures below.

It’s amazing to me the amount of hands that have worked on this project to make it possible – talk about a cooperative effort! It is this forum and cyber-technology that have made the impossible (or at least highly improbable) tractor and engine restorations of the previous generations not only probable but also possible in the 2000’s. We are no longer constrained by the geographical expertise – we can find what we need nearly anywhere! I think about this every time I see another one of these former ‘leave-er-rights’* get brought back to life. Of course it also helps that fellow collectors and investors are making this stuff actually worth the investment. But in the end, it sure is A LOT more fun to work on a project that is fairly complex and be part of that than concern yourself with how much money the final project might be worth.

* Definition of ‘leave-er-right’: a tractor or engine in such worn out or weather damaged shape as to warrant the statement, “Wow, that’s in such bad shape we better leave-er-right there.”
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Hello Randy
This all looks very nice.
We are looking out when the tractor is finished.
I think you are a happy man

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Say Craig, what material do you normally make your valves, stems, and guides out of?



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Hey Tony.......
Luckily those old engines aren't that hard to please.
Unless there's some crazy size we can't get we use 1045 cold finished round for the stems....turned end threaded on one end for the heads and then peened over. We have used a harder grade of stainless on occasion but only for very slow turning engines......say under 500 rpms where there is less heat created.
We also use 1045 for intake valve heads but use cast iron for the exhaust.
When the stems are usable I sometimes build up the heads but the weld tends to wind up VERY hard and creates a lot of work to get them shaped again.......makes for really nice valves though.......
Oh....I forgot to mention....I almost always use cast iron for guides.......if the valve stems are really big, over 5/8", I like to use ductile as it machines so well.......when too much of that fine cast iron dust gets in my blood I'm afraid to walk near a magnet...... ......
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A talented man, is our Craig! Wish I knew what you've forgotten, then I'd be smart!
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Moro................if I remembered what I've forgotten I'd be LUCKY!

(Thanks though....... )
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* Definition of ‘leave-er-right’: a tractor or engine in such worn out or weather damaged shape as to warrant the statement, “Wow, that’s in such bad shape we better leave-er-right there.”
I've always heard a "lever-right" was a piece of iron you drag into the corner of the shop and "lever-right" there!

The old H-F is sure looking happier in every picture I'm seeing....congrats on the progress made so far.

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Thank you Craig, always appreciate good info. By the way, may be a dumb question, but what happened to the thank you button?


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Craig here Tony: http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42693
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I was JUST trying to call Marshal and let him know the head is ready.......
BUT.......he was HERE.......

Anyway.......here it is now.
One exhaust seat was way out of whack and took quite a bit of grinding but the other three were pretty decent considering the condition of the guides.......

See you soon I expect....... .......
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