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Old 10-22-2007, 10:37:10 AM
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Bumping this thread to the top because I am still looking for any possible information on the tiny cast Heider model I posted ?
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I think that it was Buckle Buddies who had the model made. The 1/64 Scale model was made with and without the canopy. It was made around the same as the 1/16 version. I will have to check several old magazines that had it listed for sale in it when it was released.

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Old 10-23-2007, 10:31:02 AM
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OOPS...

The models were sold initially by B&M Buckles. Both in 1/64 and 1/16 Scales were made by SpecCast in Dyersville, IA. The "C" was the one with the Canopy and the "D" was without it (per the ads below). The Ads were in Buckle Buddies...I got a stack of them at an auction once...some really nice buckles made in the late 80's-early 90's.

Prices on the 1/64 tend to be in the $10-20 range and the 1/16 sell for $75+ depending on condition, with the box or without, with the buckle or without and the 2 people there after it. (I have seen prices up to $200).

The are quite heavy and I have seen several with broken font axles.

There is a 1/16 played with one on ebay currently. I do not know the seller.
Item # 230183528467 somehow the link clears out the ebay.com part so you will have to copy and past the item #. NOTE: I will edit this post to remove the # in a few days.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:13:18 PM
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When it comes to aftermarket accessories and devices, nothing can compete with the Fordson. One of the things I've always liked about the Fordson is that just about every one you find has some aftermarket accessory on it.

There are also more variations of original cast iron toy Fordson's than any other type of tractor. I've got a pretty good size collection of early cast iron toy tractors and a few of the cheap reproduction ones mostly just to show people the difference between an original one compared to a copy.

I've got a few duplicates in my Fordson road roller toys and would consider trading with someone if they had an original Fordson toy to trade that I don't have.

First thing when buying toy cast iron tractors is if it held together with a screw rather than a rivet, it almost certainly is a reproduction. I only say "almost" because someone could theoretically have repaired an original toy and didn't use a rivet. In either case I wouldn't pay much for a repaired toy.
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:10:19 PM
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Here is some pictures of a Moline cultivator for the Fordson tractor.
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:16:11 PM
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Here is two different ptos for the 17-28 Twin City.
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The little Heider was made by a company called B & M Buckle about 15-20 years ago. They also made a 1/16th scale one that is about 3 times as heavy as any other toy tractor. In fact you find them about half the time with the front axle broke because it can't support the heft! Hope that helps!
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:51:37 PM
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Can steam guys post here?

The two pictures shown are of the hydraulic lifts on my two F-14 tractors. I've been told "They're VERY rare" and I've been told, "Darn near all of them had them." So obvioulsy, I'm treading light, but thought you might like to see the hydraulic pump on the side of the tractor, in front of the brake drum. It seems to run off of the same drive as the belt pulley shaft?

I have a "new" F-12 at my son's shed near Helena, MT and it doesn't have such.
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P.S.: I know this is "Lugs & Cleats" and if it helps any, the tractor picture taken outside at least has steel rims, inside those bolted on rubber tires.



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Old 11-01-2007, 03:14:48 PM
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When the cultivator lift unit was installed on 12's, and 14's, one would also benefit from the improved seat spring used. the failure prone verticle post with tiny coil spring had to go in order to install hydraulic lift.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:12:00 PM
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Here is some pictures of a Moline cultivator for the Fordson tractor.
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Hi JIM, I wonder how many of those cultivator kits Moline made for Fordsons? Guess I have not seen to many. Back in the early 90's I ran into this abandon farm site on a minimum maintenance road in Iowa. There was no one around for miles, so I took a walk around, and snapped a few pics. There was a lot of old tractors and machinery that had not been moved for 30+ years including this old Moline equipped Fordson. After locating the 91 year old owner in a nearby town, it took some serous work to liberate many of these items from their long sleep The tractors that did not have rather large trees growing up through them were completely covered in thorny brambles, and I walked right by a Rumely doall orchard twice before I saw part of the steering wheel.......It took me two days to cut a path to the RDO and drag it on my trailer.....I ate sandwiches, and slept in my truck at the end of the first day
I did not want the Fordson/Moline unit in the pictures, but the eager collector that did was pretty well worn by the time he sawed it loose
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Here are a couple more Fordsons with some "accesories" on them? This first one is a Haiss conversion in a picture I took at Antique Acres, Cedar Falls, Iowa in 1992.



This second is Mike Tyler's Fordson "Trackson" at Moore, Montana.
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Here is a cute little Heider friction drive. It is surprisingly heavy for only being two inches long, and I wonder how many were made, as I have not seen another one.......of course one could easily miss something this tiny
The top of the canopie says, 1st annual quad city area farm toy & buckle show sept 25 1988. This one has been packed away in the original box, and is in perfect condition. It is difficult to get good pictures of this tiny toy. I placed it on a dollar bill to show size, and I hope someone can give us a little information on the miniature Heider......how many, who made them, any value?
I would be happy to give you a nice new $5.00 bill for that measly Dollar Bill... lol
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Ooops, I left a couple of zeros off that post........sad thing is, measly will discribe that $100 bill nowdays, because if you are going to stop at the gas pump, and the grocery store on the way home from work, you will need two of them or there is not much point in even stopping
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Here is two different ptos for the 17-28 Twin City.
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Thanks for that post on early PTO units for Twin City tractors Jim.
Here is an illustration of the real thing on my 1930 21-32. The parts book list a chain drive PTO, but I have never seen one of those.
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Here are three nails of a Twin City poster that came up for auction a while back. It was rolled up in a heavy gauge cardboard tube that said Minneapolis Steel & Machinery on it. It was described as NOS, and really made my dress fly up
Either it was not meant to be, or I am just to cheap, but I dropped out at $275. and it went overseas for around $300. There was also one with Twin City trucks on it, but I could only afford to be runner up on it as well
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Too bad you missed that one, Tony. That's a pretty nice poster. It's amazing the prices people will pay for some collectibles, but I suppose their rarity makes them more desireable. Look at the selling prices of certain hockey cards!
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I bought an Eagle and a Huber on Ebay that are the same size as yours, both are the crossmotor. I have no clue as to who made them.
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Here is wheel scrapers for the front wheels of a John Deere B. I have seen these scrapers used on other tractor makes as well. Does anyone know what company made them?
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Hi Jim, what a great little unstyled B.......steel.......fenders......mud scrapers........
I have a pair of scrapers here also, but I do not know who made them.
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I've got a Massey Harris 25 on steel with scrapers mounted on the backs of the fenders. They fit between the rows of lugs. It's the only one of my steel wheeled tractors so equipped.
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Phil, now that you mention it, I had a 12-20 Wallis that I sold to Joe Poncelet. That one had adjustable scrapers on the rear fenders too
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