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My first Twin City


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Old 11-18-2009, 10:12:58 AM
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Nice 12-20. Always nice to hear of another Twin City project being started. The extra or unattached bracket is there because the fenders appear to be from an MM Standard Z or J tractor. Not to worry though as Tony said, reproduction fenders are available.
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:20:28 PM
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I wanted to add in a photo to go along with post # 18 on page one of this thread because I get numerous contacts regarding the start-up / oil pressure issues on twin cam model Twin City tractors.

These photo's show the new oil strainer/filter I just made for one of my own TC's. I bought a new brass fitting, brass screen, and a much heavier-than-original nickel plated spring to go inside of new strainer before I soldered it all together.

Since this strainer sits in the lower most depression of oil pan, this is where water collects during extended storage. The resulting water puddle will rust anti-collapsing spring into peices that can be sucked into the oil pump.
Also make sure you have good leak-free oil lines from pan to pump. Even a very tiny leak can cause a drip that will slowly drain back the pump and line causing air cavatation and loss of oil pressure on start-up.
To over simplify, the oil pump on the four models of twin cam machines is not submerged in oil, it is located at front outside of engine. They are reliable if they have a steady supply of oil......ALWAYS check oil pressure gauge imediately after EVERY start-up!
This is a requirement, not an option.

Rick, when you start work on your 12-20, up-date this thread so we can help you find parts
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:10:36 AM
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I certinly will make updates on my progress.

I am pretty excited about this tractor and eager to get started,I may have to shuffle some projects around so I can start on it sooner than later.

I'm sure I'll be needing as much help as I can get on this tractor, I currantly only have 1 full restoration under my belt a Massey Harris 82 which I'm quite proud of.

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Old 11-24-2009, 10:21:52 AM
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Rick,
That's a sharp looking little Massey! I'm sure the TC will look just as nice when done.
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Tony.
Who sells those brass fittings in the US or Canada. I'm in need of some as well as taps and can't find them anywhere?.

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Old 11-24-2009, 01:42:56 PM
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Yes Tony, it is very important to prime and have immediate oil pressure on them pumps. I made the mistake of not checking oil pressure one day right away and by the time I crawled on the tractor and noticed it was about 50 seconds before it went up. I am still nervous about the damage it might have caused. Everything was nice and oily so I think none but you never know???? The worst is not knowing! but soon I will take her down to fix the lifter issues and I will find out.
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:24:27 PM
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Good news!
I made a deal on a 17/28 t/c today.It was real adventure going to see this tractor. We were hit with a nasty blizzard that started yesterday and continued today, I was able to 4x4 my way to the homestead and from there it was a 150 yard walk through waist high snow.Once I got to the tractor I had to brush away the snow drift that was up to the hood.
It looked to be complete and in pretty good shape however the engine is stuck.It still has the s/n # tag which read 22699.
My initial thought was to buy this as a parts tractor for my 12/20,but it might be better than a parts tractor I wont know for sure until I get it home(could be a while) for further inspection.

Here are a few pics the owner took for me before the snow hit.
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Rick; That new shed you built this summer is already too small!!
I could find room in one of mine if you're too short on storage space!
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Shoot, that ain't no parts tractor! That's a project! Nice find.
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Nice find Rick! That is only two tractors down the line from mine. (22697)
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Nice find Rick! That is only two tractors down the line from mine. (22697)
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Thats cool Jim! The fellow who sold me this tractor said it came from saskatchewan
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:37:28 AM
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Rick, That's an interesting tractor and must be worth restoring in itself. It appears to have a different inlet manifold from my 17-28 (s/n 19815). Yours is straight whereas mine is a curved shape, much the same as the 12-20. I now have most of the parts that I need for my TC (thanks in no small measure to Tony Thompson) but I am still waiting for the machine shop to finish the extensive repairs to the cylinder head. Garry and I hope to get it back after Xmas and finish the rebuilding early in 2010. I'll make sure to prime the oil pump before attempting a start-up!!

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Rick,
Here are a few pictures of 17-28 #22697. It has spent it's entire life in Wisconsin. The original owner lived about 20 miles east of me in Wisconsin. I bought it from the 2nd owners son who lived about 10 miles east of me but was born near St. Gregor, Saskatchewan. The 27-44 that is sitting behind it was originaly shipped to Regina, Saskatchewan . Good luck with #22699,
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I will totally agree with Mike. Fix it fix it! Looks like a great new toy not a parts tractor.
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Having recently come into the ownership of a Twin City 17-28, I think it's a helluva mighty fine tractor. Also a great value. I feel, with the Twin City's, you get a neat, quality tractor, and most of time at an entry level, affordable price. Nifty tractor to break into the hobby with.
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Well I finally rolled the 12/20 into the shop the other day to start going trough it.
I've made some unfortunate discoveries on the transmission housing.The underside of the housing has had some massive repairs done to it,looks like a previous owner must of hit something and blew the bottom off the housing and then re welded it back on.
There is also a fresh crack on the side which could have been a result of the 6-7 gal of water I drained from the transmission.

The other thing I checked so far is the oil screen in the oil pan,which is in surprising good condition.
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Wow,
It would have been interesting to see that major repair being done many years ago! It is ugly but looks pretty stable.
The other crack you discovered kind of makes you step back and wonder what to do
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Here are some engine pictures.
The pistons are kinda loose in the cylinders and the head has some mixed up valves in it.
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A couple of bent push rods and one that has been spliced.
A rocker arm rail that is broken in half and piece broke off the mount.
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