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Christophe,

You found one and you saved on.
Fantastic that Donky, Mule, Horse cable car.
I am realy jealours at you .
I wish i had one.
There is also in France the same problem like Holland that there isn’t much left enimore from that glorie time when that special stuf was rolling on the farmers fields.

Remember there where even dog and goat wagons overhere.
Woult also fantastic to have one and hope been able to have one in the future.

Keep them coming.
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Christophe,

Show for you my special Smokstak Dutch, Donky Mule thread.
I know this is a tractor steel wheel chanel but it fits very good to your last item.
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showth...ht=donky+wagon

Keep them coming.
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Good evening, next you can see other french tractors
The first is Lefebvre steel wheels (road) and steel track (earth) 1919
The second is motor winch Bajac (1909)
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Other same maker : Bajac winch tractor
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Continue with Somua motocultor tractor and Henri Amiot (Gerbe d'or), plough relevage with cable.
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A fascinating thread! Are there many survivors of any of these machines??
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Default Re: French adverts about Steel Wheels Tractors

I have to agree with what has been said here, this is a most fascinating thread indeed. One thing that does puzzle me however, is that these North American imports to France, and the plowing demonstrations took place during the height of the "Great War". When one stops to ponder the means with which one would have to take to accomplish such a task, it becomes even more fascinating.

Not wishing to derail this wonderful thread, I was reminded of this find on "that site". The time period is correct as perhaps is the location, or at least close. What have we here?

260695364904 , and there is an opposite view of it here

260695371098 .

Carry on with this truly wonderful thread, sorry for the side track.

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A fascinating thread! Are there many survivors of any of these machines??
Hello Phil and all, in France we have a small lot of early steel wheels american tractors but a too small lot of early french tractors .(2 or 3 Somua, 2 or 3 Filtz, 1 De Dion Bouton, 1 Aurore,1 Mistral, 3 or 4 Scemia...)

If you want other french adverts, I have this :
Polyculteur Dubois (Asnières/Seine)
Tracteur R. Dubois (Neuilly/Seine)
The name is the same, but not the constructor
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Other constructors :
Xavier Charme : look the original concept
Griffon : see original lugs amovible on wheels
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Other french constructor :
Tourand-Latil plough, relevage with cable
Marcel Landrin tractor with disc-plough turning
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I have to agree with what has been said here, this is a most fascinating thread indeed. One thing that does puzzle me however, is that these North American imports to France, and the plowing demonstrations took place during the height of the "Great War". When one stops to ponder the means with which one would have to take to accomplish such a task, it becomes even more fascinating.

Robert

Robert,

I know a little what you mention / think about this,

I think the role France / America is a little difficuld.
This isn’t a talking chanel like Smoke Gas and Flames so i wount go very deep in this.

Every country in Europe looks differend to there past ( you know the things happening in the last 600 years).
So not every Countrys (specialy older people) things the same about the history.

France and Brittan where not always huge partners like they are now.
There was a time that America became lose from England (independent).
I think in that time France saw in the U.S. a huge friend like all the differend people from different countrys.
A new beggining with finaly a new very huge friend.
But it did not went that way.
Some huge cracks came after it and some older French people thinking that America became to Brittish again.
And turned France back where it was.

But the French are not bad people only history have hit to hard on some of them.

But there was a time that America and France where the biggest friends in the world.

I think France was in the Tractor steel wheeled time 1910 until 1930 the nr 1 export from America and Canada.
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Brothers clemens said:

I think France was in the Tractor steel wheeled time 1910 until 1930 the nr 1 export from America and Canada.[/QUOTE]

The beginnig of american tractors import is 1917 (2500 unity) and the "end" after Marshall plan around 1955/60 I think.

Many american tractor comes to France like this :

Case 12/25 and Cleveland tractor
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And this

Case 20/40 and Titan & Mogul
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This more

Case 9/18 and Mogul 12/25
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Other

Case 10/18
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Christophe,

Think the Oil King coult be arround 1917 and maby the Rumely E’s coult also be late models.
But the gigantic Titans must be much older and coult be easy already in 1912.
And sure there where gigantic Titans in France a long time ago

Keep them coming the French, American and all the other ones,

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With so many French-built tractors available in the early years, I wonder why there was even much of a market for the American built ones over there. There obviously seemed to be by the number of adverts by importers. I don't think there were any of the French- built machines imported for sale in North America. I've certainly never run across any ads for them. I know a few British built units were imported over here, at least in Canada, which had much closer ties to Britain than did the U.S.
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Christophe,

I went in to my French tractor books this afternone.

And notice there where already American Prarie tractors in 1909 in France.

IHC Moguls where already given demonstrations under the name of C-I-M-A-.

I have send you yust an Email with pictures of Moguls, Aultman Taylors with the box and pipe on top,, and dates written under the pictures of 1909 and 1915.

So there where Moguls, Titans, Aultman Taylors Huge Rumelys, Hart Parrs, Big Fours in France arround 100 years ago

Wel i do can understand that you dit not know it,
Its the same happening to me.
I always have heart only rumours that there where big American Prarie tractors in Holland arround 100 years ago.
i always say about these rumours further.
Until an half years ago the real evidence came up with a real picture.

We have as two persons from two different countrys things with our history similar.
We also had the big American ones.
Wel as Holland we where nutral in WWI but we lost our prarie tractors like your country in WWII.

Hope you wil find also some the older advertismends in your news papers.

But i do like the ones you already have posting.
Keep them coming.
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With so many French-built tractors available in the early years, I wonder why there was even much of a market for the American built ones over there. There obviously seemed to be by the number of adverts by importers. I don't think there were any of the French- built machines imported for sale in North America. I've certainly never run across any ads for them. I know a few British built units were imported over here, at least in Canada, which had much closer ties to Britain than did the U.S.
Most of them came during WW2 so most of the people working had to go to fight the germans. They still needed tractors to farm with so American tractors were imported.
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With so many French-built tractors available in the early years, I wonder why there was even much of a market for the American built ones over there. There obviously seemed to be by the number of adverts by importers. I don't think there were any of the French- built machines imported for sale in North America. I've certainly never run across any ads for them. I know a few British built units were imported over here, at least in Canada, which had much closer ties to Britain than did the U.S.
Phil, here is an American advert for the Renault HI crawler. I'm not sure if any were ever sold over there though?

All the best

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