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Old 12-05-2010, 06:51:12 AM
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Todd and Bill,

To give you both and everybody a vieuw of how gigantic / impressive a Rumely Oil Pull F realy is, you have to take a looke at the next 4 pictures.
On picture 3 everybody can see Henric standing in the Grand old Lady..
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Boys,
An unrestored, unmolested F OilPull is indeed one Helluva find out in the Wild! Congratulations! A good friend of mine has an F he's said he's going to tackle this Winter-they're one impressive machine!

Just goes to show there's still a few out there in the wild-I really felt lucky 3 yrs ago when I got my 60 Case from the original family-off the original farm-a friend of mine told me "That's darn rare nowadays!" It was an entirely different feeling going to pick up that engine, than one that I had bought from another collector.

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Ok when everybody is staring at the pictures i am going to start talking.

At the momend i am a little emotional of what i am goin to say.

John and Gerald i hope and i think that you coult see this from above.
We have promist it to furlfil your wish and we are going to do it for you both, this one is for you
........................:s alute:

We also like to welkom our special guest Marie with her family from Canada .

About this hole thread we like to dedicate it to the 2 brothers John and Gerald with family, The people out of Canada and the people out of France.




The story

The begining of this story is going back 10 years ago.
For 25 years we collecting old farm tractors.
It started with a Farmall cup and an Allis Chalmers B.
In all those years we went every year with searching older tractors, until 10 years ago.
Arround 10 years ago we thought to our selfs where is the end.????.
What is the oldest tractor model to find ?....
On the end we came on one model and that is the old Hart Parr 30-60 Old Reliable.
The Hart Parr 30/60 was and is the first successful production tractor ever buld.
But there was somthing more about the Old Reliable,
We have heard also an another second nick name about this old tractor.
From an very old legend there is a story that the first huge prarie tractors with there impressive huge staks where called by the Old Indians Fire Machines.
So we thought to our selfs coult we ever own such a tractor !.

On that time we thaught lets give it a try.
So the search started.
We went a lot of time to to U.S. and Canada to find one but every try out turned in to huge failures.
We also asked it to Piet Verschelde.
We know that Piet in his hole life have had / that there went a coople thru his hands.
So there was a little chance that there coult be come ever one up again.
So Piet went also on the search for us.
But also with Piet for many years it turned out in to nothing.
Piet dit even advertisments for us in the Antique Power.
One one day 5 til 6 years ago Piet was very upsed about it, and told us told stop thinking about that Hart Parr and started to tell us one of the most stunning tractor storys that we ever had heard in our lives.

Piet told us that he know 2 old brothers that lived in to a huge French Collonie in Canada.
Piet know the brothers already in the 70,s because he bought already Lanz tractors from them in that time.
Piet found them by an advertismend that they had a Lanz for sale.
There was not much intrest in that time for the Lanzes so Piet went to them and bought the tractors from them.
In all the years Piet became huge persanol friends with the 2 Brothers.
Piet also told us that on the back of there farm there was a huge prarie tractor laying sinds maby WWII.
The Father (Harvey) of the 2 brothers had bought the tractor new.
Piet lived and eat with them when he was in Canada.
30 years ago both Brothers John, Jean and Gerhard, Gerald had promist already that on the end the huge prarie tractor had to go to Piet because Piet was there biggest friend and they always had phone contact with each other.
When Piet told us 6 years ago that story we askt him if he had a picture about that tractor.
Piet told us that he had a old picture when it was starting to grow in to that tree arround 1970,(Wil also going to post that picture).
But in the time of weeks 5 years ago when Piet told us about this tractor, a mirracle happend.
Piet was phoned by one of his very old customers that he wanted the sell a part of his collection with in his Old Hart Parr 30/60 old Reliable.
Wel the story about that tractor you most already have seen here in Smokstak.
We are working to finish this also fantastic project next spring.
Show you both threads of the Sister tractor.
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showth...Holland&page=7
And Christmas scene last year.
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showth...t+Parr+Holland

When the story happend with the Hart Parr 30/60 5 years ago, her other Sister tractor that was laying on the praries (this Rumely F) went more to the back at that time.
But it stay in our mind.

When the Hart Parr arrived on our farm 5 years ago, our eyes realy went wide open.
We never had see such a fantastic machine to see running.
And not only us but aslo our hole town.
On the begin 4 years ago when the Hart Parr started to run for the first time, our hole town was running out to see it
Thousends of people where runned out on Queensday at that time.

So sone after the Hart Parr Story the Rumely story started to turn in to our Belly again.



Mike, thank you for your fantastic story to us.
Went thru my thanks button at the momend.
But as soon it is back i wil thank you.

Also want to ask everybody go on with posting your own storys.
We don’t was to dominate the hole stak with our thread.
So everybody go on with posting your things.
But i have a lot to tel so i wil go on with posting.
Like i told we have to tell this story to everybody but also the generations after us.

Ok wats next.
Next we are going to show the old picture of the treasure in the tree when it was started to grow in the tree arround the 70,s.

We are also going to have a looke in the this incredible beautiful French Collonie.

Much more to come............................................

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wow thats a very lucky find, im quite jealous!
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Post already some new pictures for the vieuwers who step out of there bed’s this morning.

Rumely Fan,

Wel we can also still at the momend until now not beliefe where we came into the last years.

Keep watching the next weeks because the biggest things still have to come ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????

Like i told this is only the tip of the ice berg what you and everybody see now.
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Even the ignitor cables are still there! Looks like it has been parked there running and judging by the pinions it did not have a hard working life. Keep those pics and stories coming!
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It has a rope drive lubricator on the mag side as well.

Cool story!
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Marcel and Bubbles yes you are right the treasure in the tree is in very good condition.
She was standing in a good climate.
That woult have helpt her also to survive.

About showing the French collonie.
I was to fast to show you that.
Its laying 2 chapers further.
Wil come soon back on that but first an older picture and the first vizit from Henric to John.

Henric have vizit John a coople of times and became huge friends with with John.
Also a story about that.

But now what i am going to tel today, is about the first vizit 2 years ago.
And it started with one of the pictures of Piet.

The first vizit

A coople of years ago we start asking Piet if he had a picture about the huge prarie tractor in the French collonie.
I went to him and we had to search for the picture in his house but after a long time digging, one of pictures came up.

We where stunning of what we saw.
And askt him where is it ???????.
Wel Piet gave Henric a direction of where to find.


So Henric went in the airplane to Canada on the search for the French collonie.

It was a long drive and after a while Henric came in a part of Canada where he never was been before.
After a long time he came lost and he dit not know enymore where he was.
So he started to ask on farm places.
A coople of times he was under attack by dogs.
Most of the farmers have dogs and there where some very angry models.
The farmers coult not help him and after a long time he found a local tractor dealer.
My brother told him that he was looking for a special French family name.
The dealer told him that he had a huge map with all the farms with names of the hole aria.
When they both where looking Henric coult not find the same name that was written on the little paper he had from Piet.
But ther was one other name on the map that was having almost the same name only one letter was differend.
Wel this coult be the farm.
So my brother stept in the car and went driving on the direction from the map.
After a while the road stoped and became gravel and almost no farms enymore.
When he was driving on the gravel road, after while he saw sudenly huge buldings coming up.
Buldings arround with huge trees.
When he came closer to the driveway of the farm he saw little deeres coming out.
This must be it.
And drove the drive way of the farm in.
When he stept out of the car he saw in the corner a house.
He walked to the house and notice that the door was standing wide open.
And the heater was standing very high because it was very warm inside the house.
My brother yelled thru the frond door.
Enybody home !.

Yea Yea come in,,, he heard coming out of the house.
So my Brother walked in and opend a door room and saw and old men sitting behind a desk writting very little beautiful French letters in the a huge thick book.
Are you John, my Brother askt.
Yes i am.
My brother told him his name and told John that he was traveling thru and that he was a tractor collector from Europe.
In the begin everything whent very cold but as soon my Brother started to talk about Piet Verschelde the ice was broken.

John turned out in to a very friendly person and told Henric that his Brother Gerald shortly was past away and was very sad about it.
My brother showed John the pictures of our collection and had a long talk about everything.
John told Henric about his family tractor and that he coult have a looke outside and take some pictures.

So my Brother went outside.
When he was outside he saw al arround buldings and trees.
There was only one bulding with a tree next to it.
He walked to the tree and put some branches away.
And there it was Oh my goodnes !!!!....
A gigantic Rumely laying very deep with her wheels in the ground and totaly surround by a huge tree.
Henric watch it very good and toke the pictures.
After the watch he went back to John in the house talked about the tractor and Piet because John wanted to talk a lot about Piet
After a long talk, Henric left his trip further.

Until so far the first vizit.

More to come tomorow.

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Was forget to post one of the early pictures.

More to come.
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And some new pictures.

Ok next a little sensitive subject about the French collonie and about why this tractor all her life have been on that farm and that nobody coult buy that tractor.

I have to tel that story also, because later in this thread i am going to tel that there was 100 years ago somekind conection with the Rumely factory/plant and France.
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Chapter history of the French Colony

Hope you guys are not to sharp on my English language.
Somtimes i am almost drowning in al the English words.


Ok a sensitive chapter,
I have to tel this because its very importend and it have also somthing to do with the Rumely factory later in this thread.

The beggining.

When my Brother was at John he told him a very sensitive story about his family.
John told that a lot of his family /ancestors original came from France,
They where refugies to the new world (America, Canada) out of a religic war about the Huguenots.
A part of John and Gerhard his family was murderd, killed by the Hugenots in the streets of Paris.
If enybody is intrested about reading the story about the Hugenots you can have a looke at this site.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huguenot#United_States
The Calvinism came from most majority out of England.
So there was always a huge afection from John and Gerald and there family against the Brittish, The Brittish Canadians and a lot Americans because in the beggin America was also under the Brittish flag.

Wel i am not here with this writting for pointing fingers against the Brittish, Americans ore the Brittish Canadians you know.
On every country you wil find bad things in there past.
I wount say that we the Dutch having a clean history.
Wel we dit not invent the slavery but we dit have played a huge role in it (you know let somebody else doing the jop).

But i can understand that there are older people like John ore Gerald having a huge afection when there is ore have happend such a very sad things in there past.

If you came as an American, Brittish Canadian ore Brittish to vizit John an Gerald,
They where friendly but not very close.

I know that there are at the momend a lot of rumours about this tractor.
And before that some people are going to say that this tractor was mine !!!!.

I have to go more to tel about this.

This tractor (Rumely F) was already 30 years ago not on his way to America ore Canada .

When Piet was 30 years ago eating with John and Gerald.
John and Gerald ask Piet if he woult take on the end after the Lanze with there last family tractor (the Rumely F) also to Europe.
So that it wil not went ore go ore come in the future somewhere in an auction in Canada ore America and that it still woult have gone in to the hands of the Brittish, Brittish Canadians ore Americans.

There was also somthing more that i have to say about this.

This tractor was not unknown.
There where more Canadians and Americans who know about this tractor.
We have a lot of friends in Canada and the U.S.
And also people that are never on Smokstak.
Some friends of us told us if you bid 1 ore 2 milion dollars on that tractor, the old men wil never sell it.
Some say wel i wan a bet with you that you never going to have it.


Wel in all the vizits my Brother have done to John, he never have askt John if he want to sell the tractor to him.
Wel on the end John know that is was going us, but Henric never askt him.

Henric talked with John if there came somtimes people for buying the tractor.
John told Henric yes there are.
Some came a dozen times (means 12 times).
John told Henric also somthing more about this subject.
John told that on the day of the funeral of his younger Brother Gerald in 2007 in the afternone when they where where sitting in the house with there funeral clothing on and where drinking very sad coffee still buyers came.
John was very upsed about that and told Henric, wel they never going to have it !!!!!.

Sorry to the vieuwers that i have to tell this but the rumours arround this tractor have to stop.....

Going further
John told us that there Grand father Herve / Harvey became in Quebec with most of the French Canadians.
Now we all know there is a line crossing thru Canada with half French and half Brittish.
Such a lines are not only in Canada but a lot of Countrys have it.
Going further
When John and Gerald Father was living in Quebec he had a dream.
His dream was to have a huge farm and to farm on a huge scale.
It was not only John and Gerald’s father that had that dream but a lot of French settlers, Pioneers.
So on the end of the 19 century and the beggin of the 20 century somthing special happend.
A huge groep of French came out of Quebec and settled in to a huge collony.
This collony was a groep of villages in the middle of the Brittish zone (the west of Canada).
In the main town of this collony there was a huge plan for bulding a copy of the Nice French Paris Church Notre Dame.
So the buld started and on the end there was an incredible beautiful little copy of that amazing French Church the Notre Dame.


Now tomorow we are going to show you this incredible beautiful French Collony.
But before some people (golddiggers and side walkers) are going to jump in there Airpane, Ship, Car if there is more to find overthere.
Because i had that already two times on Smokstak in Europe.
I can take the dreams away.
The French collony is not enymore what it was 50 years ago.
Its now a huge multy culti societiet and not totaly French enymore.
There are still french names but its mixt up with Brittish and other people.
And in the next 50 years only the beautiful French Notre Dame wil remain that it once was a very beautiful French collony.

Tomorow we are going to have a looke in this still amazing beautiful French Collony with an amazing video.


More to come.
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i would guess big oil pull maybe? just going by the looks of the canopy and radiator. leroy
MR.22: Now that we all know it's an Oil Pull....

How in the heck were you able to see the radiator in those first two pictures ????

Even Zoomed in it was all a blur with No Shape at all on my monitor.
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Chris, It sounds like you're leading this story into the area of Canada near where I live. There was a large French settlement not far from where I live, but today it is a fairly large city, although most of the signs are still in French and English!
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thanks alot for posting the new pictures, i will keep watching this thread.
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There is a shed right by the tractor, too bad it wasnt pushed inside...
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Otto, Phil, Rumely fan and S. Simons,

Thanks for the great coment and questions.

Phil,
Wel the collony is not in Alberta but there coult be some more other more little French collonys.
I know that there are also huge Dutch collony’s in Canada and America.
We have been in a lot of them and have eat in the restaurants.
In some restaurants there are even the people walking in Dutch clothing with wooden shoes.
About the place of the collony, you wil know it on the end of the day.

Rumely fan and Otto keep on watch overhere, there wil be very major things going to follow.

S Simons.

Thanks for your question.
This Rumely have been laying almost here hole life on this spot.
John told us that she was already on this spot laying before the buldings and trees.
The Buldings became much more later.
The collony is laying on the best spot as climate over hole North America.
Very dry.
This last spring my Brother went to America and Canada again.
He talked to friends in America and Canada about the treasure in the tree story and showed them some pictures.
Some where nailed to the ground an shake there heads, they told Henric.
It’s the best spot in the world for keeping a tractor outside.
I am sure if this tractor was standing for 100 years extra in that tree, she wil be still in good shape.
We have notice that only the wood of the floor and the wood under the radiator are in bad condition.
But most of the letters on the back and lines are still on the tractor.
Even the serial nr is still written in paint on the front.
John and Gerald have saved her........

Most of the other Rumely B’s E’s and F’s have been destroit ore went to the scrap mill.

Not so long ago there was a story somewhere in a Magazine that somebody told that his ore his family have trade a Rumely F near a dealer for a Case L somewhere in the 30’s

Like i told most of them from all the other farmers are realy gone.
And never come back enymore.


Also about the pictures that we showed now to the Smokstakers.

A Year ago we have dit send a coople by Email to some friends in the U.S. and Canada.
You know what some of the reactions where. ???????.

Yea Yea dream further.
Who dit you have helped for making that picture !!!!!!!!!.
Dit you have help from Mr. Steven Spielberg !!!!!!!..... ore somthing like that !!!!!!!!.
Nice Christmas card !!!!!!!.
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That thing does look in remarkable condition! Since we've seen the way the old Hart-Parr has been preserved in your care, the same treatment would be given to this tractor? Such a nice original!

Since I don't know a whole lot about the F's-what is the little tank on the stand for? Fuel tank, or water tank? Original or not?

This is quite a thread! Really enjoying reading it.

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Looks like the same tractor here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPS8R...eature=related
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Bubbles,

You are going to fast !!!!!!!!!!!!!

You went to early with this posting.
You dit have found the You Tube item of what i told aready over here about the race against You Tube.

I woult have post this later in this thread.

Now its mixt up.

There is somthing more with this video.
klik on the letters under the first writting.

There is somthing under it that this tractor belongs to Jay Lenno and its one of the 250 thousend dollars tractor.

Notice parts of the tree still hanging in her !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

When the treasure in the tree arrived in the Harbour of Halifax,,, The People /Workers have tooke there camera and filmed it. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So everybody can see how special she realy is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wel Bubbles i am not upsed.
Happy that more Smokstakers are busy with this subject.

Later in this thread i come back on this item.

Chris

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Was there a model X 25-40 Rumely at this place?
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