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Adding another to the shed - 1941 John Deere A


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Well, I went ahead and bought this 1941 model A. Needs some work, but it has new tires that are worth what I paid for the entire tractor, so if for whatever reason I cannot find the parts I need, or in un-economical to repair, I could part it out. Apparently I am told it had a full restoration, prior to freezing the block this past winter. Guy said he was so pissed off, he just wanted it gone.
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Default Re: Adding another to the shed - 1941 John Deere A

Uhhh Repo, that ain't a 1941....that's A JD's unstyled, and they quit making them in 1938. Can you post the SN so we can check it out and let you know for sure what year it is? It's possible they changed a 1941 into an unstyled, but not probable.

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I will try and get the serial number from him. He had it advertised as a '41, and actually told me it was a '41 so I am not sure. Either way, I am buying it cause I like the looks of it. Not going for 100% correctness.
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Default Re: Adding another to the shed - 1941 John Deere A

very nice JD A mike is right exept for unstyled tractors went untill 39 still there is no way it is a 41 but still a very nice model A thank you for sharing.John
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Well, I went ahead and bought this 1941 model A. Needs some work, but it has new tires that are worth what I paid for the entire tractor, so if for whatever reason I cannot find the parts I need, or in un-economical to repair, I could part it out. Apparently I am told it had a full restoration, prior to freezing the block this past winter. Guy said he was so pissed off, he just wanted it gone.
How bad is the crack? Check out my thread a stitching party. Jerry A from Witchita gave a few of us a lesson it stitching a crack in Crosby this year. You could possibly do it right in the tractor. He said he had even reconnected some pieces that had been broken right out and never had any trouble.

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Default Re: Adding another to the shed - 1941 John Deere A

This post isn't about who's right or wrong, but JD styled their tractors starting in '39, with the exception of the AR which went until '48 and then got styled. Your new tractor is somewhere between '34 and '38, and probably closer to the later. Either way Repo, nice grab. If you're turning into a JD guy, you can send the Allis down this way
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The only other exception to the "unstyled" rule is the G's, which were still unstyled in 1941. Now if you were able to wrangle one of those.....

Guys, we might be wrong....in blowing up the picture, I swear I think I see a six-speed transmission shifter....if so, someone might have gone to a fair bit of work to make a 41 into an unstyled! Either 100% correct or not, it'd still be a nice, fun tractor to play with when running, and if he got a great deal on it, all the better!

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I hope to have more pictures of it tomorrow, I will post those as well, and maybe we can figure out what the heck year it really is. Maybe it is a bastardized '41? No matter to me, I think it looks pretty cool.
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Looks pretty good, are those new skins on the back? If it is a 6 speed, at least you'll be able to go somewhere... The 4 speed tractors only move about 6mph, where the 6 is about double that.
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Yes, he said it has brand new rear tires on the rear. Said he had over $6K into it prior to freezing it.
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A cracked water jacket is peanuts.
Ya dun good....... .......
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Default Re: Adding another to the shed - 1941 John Deere A

If not, I need a radiator top tank and core! LOL! Looks great otherwise!
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Guys, we might be wrong....in blowing up the picture, I swear I think I see a six-speed transmission shifter....if so, someone might have gone to a fair bit of work to make a 41 into an unstyled!

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Saw that too. If it was an unstyled tractor, wouldn't you be able to see the vin tag in front of the flywheel just below the governor? Somewhere in there (39, 40, 41?) they started putting them on the other side near the mag. Who gives a rat's arse anyways, it's a cool looking unit. Like Craig says, a cracked water jacket is nothing to fix. Can we assume that it still runs then, just don't hold water?
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Default Re: Adding another to the shed - 1941 John Deere A

I THINK I see a two speed shifter lever in the pics.......
A photo showing the platform and dash would help to answer a lot of questions.
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Saw that too. If it was an unstyled tractor, wouldn't you be able to see the vin tag in front of the flywheel just below the governor? Somewhere in there (39, 40, 41?) they started putting them on the other side near the mag. Who gives a rat's arse anyways, it's a cool looking unit. Like Craig says, a cracked water jacket is nothing to fix. Can we assume that it still runs then, just don't hold water?
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I think it was either 40 or 41 that the tag was moved to the opposite side, on top of the main housing, near the clutch pulley. I KNOW the '39's had the tag in the same spot as the unstyleds, my styled '39 A in the backyard has it by the flywheel.

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Well I got some pictures tonight. A little concerning. The upper rackadiator tank is cracked, and the other crack looks like it may be the crankcase! Please have a look at the pictures, and see if you can tell me what exactly this tractor is, and your thoughts on the engine crack.
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Here are the cracked areas.
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See that tag just under the mag? What does it say?
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Looks like a mixture of parts, the crank case is like everyone says, a styled 6 speed. It does however have an unstyled block and head (which looks to be cracked). Take it to a machine shop and have them magnaflux it. If its not cracked in the intake or exhaust ports, they can most likely 'pin' it. Same for the block.
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Its the earlier one cause i only see the 4 bolt pattern on that tractor if thats a 41 some spent a lot of time to play with our heads
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