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Old 11-10-2010, 11:53:46 AM
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This story will show up on the GEM blog and will also appear at some point in the GEM as a story. Thanks for looking.

The story of the Jungle Engine began early June 2010. I was checking the current ads on Smokstak and came across a listing of this 12 hp Domestic engine sitting in a scrap heap in the Bahamas. The owner of the engine, Jim Brown of Ohio, was taking bids on the engine. I was immediately fascinated by the story and called for more information. Jim is part owner in a scrap iron removal company that won a bid to clean up land on the main island of the Bahamian Commonwealth – Andros. He pays the locals a finder’s fee if they can lead workers to a scrap iron pile. He said that its not always the best way to find scrap and told a story of a young boy, about 12, that had twice led into the jungle to show him a large pile of iron only to find a mountain of tin cans! This same boy came back to Jim a third time and insisted he had found real iron this time. Very reluctantly, Jim followed him back into the jungle again. Much different outcome this time as the boy led him to the resting place of the Domestic. I guess third times really are the charm!
A few days later I called Jim back, after talking about this engine with my father, Marshal, and let him know that we would be interested in buying the engine. He told us the current bid, which was lower than what we were willing to spend, I made him an offer and he accepted. Great! Now how and when do we get it?
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Throughout the summer a series of tropical storms and wet weather stalled the extraction, but by the middle of August their company was ready to retrieve the engine. Below is the story of that attempt as written by Humberto Boza an employee:

“It all started on a hot summer day, going through the preliminary checking of the equipment oil, water, tires, etc. - so far so good. (See Photo - Engine retrieval first attempt 1 – Here) Then with the assistance of GPS technology, we approached through an actual dirt road to the closest point to where the equipment to be resurrected and began the task of making headway through the thick of forest with a Caterpillar 966 loader in order to approach our final destination. (See Photo - Engine retrieval first attempt 2 – Here) With the large bucket and plenty of horsepower and wheel spin, we continue our zigzagging journey to avoid the larger trees as well as those that the Bahamian conservation laws prohibit us from knocking down. (See Photo - Engine retrieval first attempt 3 – Here) As you can see by the smoke on the engine exhaust, we could only inch away at times due to the thick of the forest and the wet mud and water accumulated after two days of rain. The mosquitoes were also inching their way at such unexpected visitors! (See Photo - Engine retrieval first attempt 4 – Here)
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Old 11-10-2010, 11:57:59 AM
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The rest of the story...

Please observe that the finished road built is far from being considered a road, which would allow any normal vehicles to travel through. As I walked behind the loader, I recognized how brilliant the guy who invented the boots was. My shoes, socks and feet bear witness to this fact. (See Photo - Engine retrieval first attempt 5 – Here) Then, finally as we get within 300 ft. of our destination, I get in front of the loader to make sure we do not overshoot the spot or worse of all, that the operator does not run over the machine, when finally, I see Jim's dream machine. I then go on to direct the operator to bring the loader around so that we can establish a clear area from where we can lift the machine without damaging it; when all of a sudden the loader stops running. I suspected back news, knowing by experience that you never want to have a breakdown when deep into no man's land. (See Photo - Engine retrieval first attempt 6 – Here) Then I see Leticia holding in her hand a piece of hydraulic cylinder rod that was too shiny for that neck of the woods. What is it? It is the right steering hydraulic cylinder rod which snapped into two pieces once the rod pin lost the bolt that secures the rod to the loader, allowing the rod to jump off its place and break when the machine turned left. (See Photo - Engine retrieval first attempt 7 – Here) Needless to say, end of mission until the loader is repaired.”

So that was the story until late October when I called Jim. He said the engine should be retrieved, crated, and through US customs within three weeks. If things work out that means Marshal will be taking a trip to Fort Lauderdale, FL to pick the engine up sometime in November. To be continued….
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Nice looking engine Randy! Looks like it'll take some work but it will be worth it all when it's done! Nice Winter Project!
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OUCH ! sucks that the hydraulics failed. cant wait to see the pics of it back on this side of the "pond"
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Default Re: 12hp Domestic – The Jungle Engine Story

What an interesting start to a "lost engine" resurrection tale! (How many of us in Stakker land can honestly claim to have found an engine in a jungle?)

After what you and your dad did with the Happy Farmer tractor a couple of years ago, I look forward to seeing this project's progress. (You & Marshal did a great job with documenting the various stages of restoration -- and the occasional disappointing setbacks inherent in that process.)

Keep us posted -- this is one project on the 'Stak that I will definitely follow with immense interest!
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Interesting story Randy--thanks
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That's just too cool!

Please let us know how you make out on gettin' 'er home, and thru customs!

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Whats it off of? I noticed a gear on the "off" side of the engine.
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Greg,

I don't know what the gear was for - maybe some Domestic experts can shed some light on our question. Below is a picture of a 12 hp model A that another Stakker was nice enough to send me. It gives a much better look at that gear.

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Randy,

What a great story and pictures. That engine was quite the find ! I will be looking forward to reading future updates about your progress on this project !

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Great Adventure on finding the Domestic Engine. Keep on taking pictures of the adventure and record all the names and location it was found. Merton
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The gear originally ran a winch. These Winch Domestics were used in shipyards.
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Received word yesterday that the engine has been retrieved, crated and is on its way to the US. Should be ready to pick it up this coming Wednesday.

The story of retrieval got more interesting. Jim’s company went back to the site about a week ago and discovered the scrap pile and the engine gone! Some other scrappers had used the assess road they cleared back in August to steal the pile. It took two days of looking and a lot of worrying, but the engine and the rock crusher it apparently once powered were found – without harm! Jim said he looked the engine over when they were crating it and if he hadn’t sold his engine collection a few years ago he would have never let this one go. That at least sounds promising

The picture below is of the rock crusher found next to the engine. It too is on its way back to the states and will be picked up by us with the engine.
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Yikes! That must have been an OS moment.
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Interesting story Randy. Thanks for taking the time to document it all.
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Just a quick note - its my father's birthday today - his present.... an email from Jim stating that the engine and the rock crusher have cleared customs and will be ready for pickup on Wednesday! So...he is on his way to Florida. I will post pictures of the trip when he gets back sometime this weekend. Wish I was going with but my wife and I are expecting our fourth child anytime.

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Harry if you are anywhere near Plantation, FL on Wednesday and you want to meet up with Marshal and inspect the cargo, PM me your contact info and I will pass it along to dad.
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Happy Birthday Marshal!
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HAPPY BD to yer Dad, Randy!!!

NICE FIND!!! Can't wait to see it at Boo...next year???

HAPPY TURKEY DAY TO YOU & YOURS Randy!!!
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The picture below is of the rock crusher found next to the engine. It too is on its way back to the states and will be picked up by us with the engine.[/QUOTE]

Hi Randy, is this really a rock crusher? (I assume any rocks would crush it), What actually is it?

Great story, I was amused taking part of it endeed.

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