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12hp Domestic – The Jungle Engine Story


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Old 11-26-2010, 11:57:02 PM
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Tore,

The 'rock crusher' is actually a lime stone pulverizer .
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ITS HERE!!!

Marshal pulled in around 3 PM! I will be telling this story as it played out from island to driveway. So lets rewind about a week - remember I said the engine got stolen from its original resting place? Well not everything made to ok The speed lever got broken, the pulley is missing AND the guy that took the engine pried the brass serial number tag off the engine! Here are some pictures of where Jim found the engine and a video explaining events.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKXJrGIUm80
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Here are the pictures of Jim loading the engine from the pile and it being washed to clear it of dirt so it was able to pass customs.
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Here is the engine being readied for shipping. Great job building the skid Jim!!!

Below is a link to Youtube of Jim giving some detailed history of the shipping of the engine. He digitally recorded the story and I played it while recording with my camera. I put the photo of the domestic in to give people something to look at - this is the extent of my filming knowledge!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FvDT_Zlepc
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Default Re: 12hp Domestic – The Jungle Engine Story

I think this is a cool post and glad a engine with history/story was saved! But since I just learned about the special certified crates that it takes to ship to other country's did the wood and crate coming from this country have to be certified also? (No critters?) Bob
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Default Re: 12hp Domestic – The Jungle Engine Story

Randy,
Hate like all get-out the engine suffered some damage due to the hands of those !@#$!@#$ scrap thieves -but SOOOO glad ya'll DID get it back! Look forward to seeing its restoration. Did ya'll get the brass tag back also?

BTW-Happy Belated Birthday to your dad!

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We HAVE NOT gotten the name tag back and don't think we ever will? Thankfully we do have a picture of the tag and the serial number of the engine is 16238.
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A bit more of the story....

When the engine got loaded onto the ship, apparently the paperwork got lost or mixed up and the Captain almost did not accept it. I guess it took a few hours of work and a number of calls including getting the harbor captain out of bed, but the paperwork was verified and the engine was finally on its way!

It was ready then for pickup on Wednesday, November 24th. The pictures below are of the docks and the engine and the limestone crusher in their container prior to removal. The last photo is of my dad, Marshal, standing next to his, "Oh my God what did I get myself into."
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Unloading and loading.... and Marshal with the guys that made all this engine madness possible!!!
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Here are the arrival photos from last night.
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Default Re: 12hp Domestic – The Jungle Engine Story

Randy, are their any traces of original paint? From the one photo it looks like a gray color on the side of the flywheels.
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Steve,

There is definitely a large amount of grey paint on the flywheels; however, we have been finding places with red paint too.
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These pictures, also from last night, show what is nice and what IS NOT nice about the engine. As expected, the salty air conditions from sitting on the island all those years have really taken their toll on the old girl.
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Just a few more photos from last night. Note the 2-feed Madison-Kipp oiler on the engine. I found the oiler on ebay about a month ago. Just for fun I bolted it down on the engine.
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Yesterday (Saturday) Dad, Bob and I commenced on some disassembling of the engine. There were a lot of parts that were very easy to move after spraying Essential Lube (Hydrotex) on the rusty parts the night before. We have used essential lube on all our projects over the years as a penetrating fluid. As you can see from the pictures we took the flywheels off and the sideshaft. Even though the crankshaft is rough it is in much better shape than expected.

We are definitely going to need some parts for this engine! Anyone out have 12hp Domestic parts they want to sell or let us borrow to get cast???

PS - Dad and I are considering packing up the engine and ourselves and moving in with Wayne Grenning. Do you have room for us?
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A few more.
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Here are the last ones for the day. The second picture I took through the ignitor port on the head - cylinder look a bit rough.
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Randy,

That's heartbreaking to hear of the parts going missing at this stage, especially after it survived intact for all those years. Hopefully you will be able to retrieve the missing items - it seems strange that the pulley would have been removed though if all that metal was just going for scrap? Thank goodness the engine was not damaged by being dropped from a height when they put it on the pile.

If you need a new brass plate for the engine I know of someone here in the UK who would make an excellent job of it - just let me know.

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Randy
Does this engine have ported exhaust? I see what looks a port on the cylinder side. Also I see it has a dry head.
Do you have any idea of the year built?
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Randy,

It looks like a great project engine, I don't think I have ever seen a 12hp Type A engine before, only pictures in a copy of a catalog I have. Sorry to hear about the troubles you had with it. At least it wasn't scrapped by the bums who took it. After watching the videos you posted, I didn't realize it had to be purchased again. I figured since it was stolen from an area of land that Jim had the contract to clean up from the government, that even if it was abandoned many years ago that Jim became the owner of all of the scrap on the land since he has contract to remove it all. I guess laws work different down there; I would have definitely demanded the tag and pulley back from the bums, since it was not right that they took it in the first place. I do hope you get it back someday. When the engine is restored to running shape, it will be all worth it in the end. Thanks again for posting this story and pictures of your engine adventure. I am looking forwards to seeing future post about your progress.

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