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12hp Domestic – The Jungle Engine Story


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Old 02-02-2011, 03:15:10 PM
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What Rob did next was cut in a vent hole and a pour hole, clamped in back together and poured in the plastic mixture. It took only about 30 to 45 minutes to kickoff and harden.
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:28:23 PM
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Here are the final pictures, again less than an hour from the pour, and we have a finished rocker arm pattern ready to take to the foundry. Could we have just taken in the original with the wooden pattern fix to it? Of course! But what fun would that have been?!

I will use this system in the future if anyone ever needs to borrow a part from us. It really is a win-win system.
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Can you tell us the names of the products you used and where they were purchased? Looks like a very useful process.
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Old 02-03-2011, 04:30:44 PM
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Keith,

I'll let my brother (Rob) field those questions because I really don't know. I guess I was too interested in the process to ask the specifics. Here is a link to his website and contact info: http://www.lakeviewtaxidermy.com/

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That stuff looks just like the RTV Silicone and Resin I use to cast detail parts for model aircraft. That came out real good, great job guys!
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Tuesday after work I went over to a buddy’s custom metal cutting shop and had a crankguard made on his CAD plasma cutter. Last night Dad and I worked on bending the guard and drilling holes. Today Dad and Uncle Bob bent, drilled and riveted the metal center support. Here are a few pictures of the near finished guard. Last thing to do is put in the wick to the wipe oiler and hook up the line to the Madison-Kipp. Afterwards, I will be giving it a liberal does of saltwater to rust the guard. We have decided to ‘age’ it as best we can and NOT paint it.
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Randy, The gusrd looks great ! How did you make the center support rib? It almost looks like a piece of sliced pipe? - Wayne
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:37:49 PM
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Thanks Wayne,

The center support rib is actually half oval steel molding purchased from http://www.restorationstuff.com/ . We have gotten a lot of hard to find items from them in the past. They are a great company! I am sure many Stak members have worked with them too.
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Randy, thumbs up for not painting it! I've rusted up parts for engines and the new part looks more original sometimes than the existing one.
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What a great story.Thanks for taking the time to post for everyone.
It looks like the bolts that hold the cylinder to the base are rusted off.
How did you get them out?Did you remove the cylinder from the base?
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Thanks Buda,

For the bolts we could not remove Marshal welded nuts to the tops of them. As many of you know this process works very well because the heat from welding is mostly centralized to the bolt and helps loosen the rust. We did not remove the cylinder from the base because the two pieces are pinned to each other. As far as the high crown replacement bolts, we were VERY lucky! An old collector friend used to part out engines in the 50’s and 60’s and has a fairly large stock of original high crown nuts and bolts – he lent us his entire stock to be used as needed! That supply has been MORE than useful in our restoration!
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Old 02-15-2011, 10:34:31 AM
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Just a quick FYI - Marshal picked up the castings from the foundry yesterday and already machined the exhaust rocker. I will try to take some good pictures and post them tonight. Won't be long now!
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My dad, Marshal, has really been making some great progress on the engine. I haven't been over in the last two days and he practically has it back together and ready to roll!
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Wow ,looks like you will be running soon!
Will you be attending Portland with it?
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FIRST FIRE!!!!! Actual video of the very first fire this engine has had in multiple decades. Fine tuned it afterward and got it running nice for about a minute - check valve issues. Still have some work to do, like find a different check valve, time the mag up, and machine the bracket for the MK oiler... But all this is minor because IT'S RUNNING! We could not have been able to get this project done so fast and so well without all the help from other collectors! Thanks again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdwbVN-3eTg

Here is how it looked the second time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siHHqet361U
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WOW.....how cool is THAT??? You & your Dad did a helluva nice job, Randy!!! Can't wait to see it!!!
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Great Job !!! Seeing smoke in the video gave me "Geese" Bumps ! No just one goose.. a whole flock
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Great Job!

I'd say you all had a big smile on your faces the first time it fired!

Thanks for posting the interesting story of it!

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Great thread Randy!!! Thanks for posting this story.
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