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now in my back yard . It went from a Dodge pickup in Pa., to a Ford pickup to New Jersey. It got loaded on a pallet with a Kubota LT40, stored in a pole barn, put on my single axle trailer pulled by my Chevy 1500-350 with 430,000 miles. Off loaded with a H.F. cherry picker onto a smaller trailer and now resides on the covered patio in my back yard. Boy is it heavy and am I tired. It needs a bit of work to get it back together and running, but it's a "NICE" spring time project that one usually just dreams about while doing mundane things to keep busy . Before you ask, yes I have the head, governor, igniter, mixer, hopper/cylinder, etc..
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Just in case, the side shafts are one Titan for which the blueprints mostly exist.
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Very Nice Paul. Sure wished I could find one like that!... I know it will be making sweet music in the very near future.
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Nice find, I know you will give it a good home.
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Here are a few photos of parts. Some are stuck, some are not so stuck, and some are "REALLY" stuck (valves/valve cage) in the head, igniter. I pulled out the fuel tank, glass beaded a few parts, got the mixer cleaned out of the mud daubers work, cleaned up the fuel pump and check balls, went to the machinist with a bunch of questions, and came away with that I need the piston spray welded, and then machined to fit the 1/8" over bore done previously and custom rings (where). I keep passing on those bore gauges (why do I need those) I see at the "flea market" and now I probably won't see any at all . It needs a bit of welding on the head fissures and some other pieces . All part of the hobby and keeping busy, even in NJ on the way through while having "FUN".
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Default Re: 4 HP IHC Titan Side Shaft is

Nice engine Paul, you sure seem to be able to find the nice ones. Can't wait to see it run.
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The igniter was stuck fast and wasn’t going to loosen up easily. I soaked it and fussed with it awhile while doing other “stuff”. I need a set of trucks for the Titan and found a set of IHC saw truck rails the right width out back leaning against the fence, and a few IHC wheels up against a tree in the “wheel” corral . I think I have the axels around, but am missing the bolster/fifth wheel castings. Anyway, I got anxious about the igniter, so I got out the good old “heat wrench”. It took about 5 minutes before it came loose. Getting it out was another fun thing as the trip arm was stuck fast and wasn’t moving. I went to the puller hook in the garage and took off the little OTC puller I got at the “flea market” two weeks ago for a $1.00. Put it on, cranked it down and pop, it came right off (well almost). I had to do a little bit of filing on the trip arm so the puller could grab it). Then I just punched the movable arm out. It was covered in hard, dry soot. I put it in the bead blaster and cleaned the arm and the igniter and buffed the arm on the wire wheel. It works nicely now. I checked the stationary electrode to make sure it wasn’t grounded, hooked up a battery and coil, and then tripped the igniter which gave me a nice fat spark. Not done yet as the igniter spring needs to be replaced. Now where is that piano wire I got at the “flea market” I can use to make a new spring for the normally closed points? Well, ran out of time and that’s for another, busy, fun day, even in NJ on the way through .
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Mr. Spence,
That is a beautiful engine. Please post pictures when finished.....or even a video would be spectacular!

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Robgill you should have the video in a week or two. Nice looking engine Paul. Can I take your next visit to the chiropractor? Oh thats a heavy engine.
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Rob: I'm working hard at putting it back together. I got the IHC Titan S/S drawing for the igniter spring part#H4233 from a fellow STACKER and will tackel that today (maybe) if something else doesn't get in the way. The piston is the major problem that have and it will get resolved. Probably longer than a week once I find the right place. Kevin, after moving that "HEAVY" iron around, the wifes back started acting up (she was just watching supervising) so I took her to the Chiropractor . I'm OK, I think .
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Paul, very nice engine, I am thinking at this point you must have pretty much every type of IHC engine that they built?
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Mike: I'm missing more than a few .

This morning I dug out the little used spring winder and the 26 Gauge piano wire and proceeded to wind me an igniter spring. After a few attempts , I got one that works. Boy is that wire sharp , don't ask. Before assembling the moveable electrode I seated it to the igniter using valve grinding compound. I cleaned it all up good with hot soap and water, put the igniter together and it snaps nicely as it should.
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Hey Paul, thanks for posting the picture of the spring winder. I have never seen one before. Now if I ever see one I will know to buy it. Neat!

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The mixer got cleaned out of the mud daubers work, or so I thought . The cast in fuel pick up in the mixer was clogged and a bit of work with a piece of custom curved wire got that cleaned out. Then I noticed that the needle valve seat seemed OK, but the other end of that protrudes into the air intake was broken off . That’s the part where the fuel is drawn into the air intake. A look at the mixer parts showed that H269 is the needle valve seat, and what it looks like, and no drawings for it are available. Well it’s broken so it has to be fixed. I tried pressing it out after soaking, and it was a NO-GO. Not knowing how it was installed, I got out the handy small pointed punch and began chipping it out a little chip at a time. Come to find out it was a 1/4” pipe thread screwed in piece. After getting most of the old pieces out I ran the pipe tap carefully a bit at a time through it and it cleaned up nice. Now I need to make the new needle valve seat/fuel delivery tube. I looked at the parts book again and said I have something that looks like that in the compressor parts bin! Sure enough, I found a male air hose end that is already made with a tapered seat for the needle valve and the other end fits nicely centered in the air intake . The gas (starting), Kerosene (running), brass two way valve in the cast iron mixer is stuck good. I never had good luck freeing these combination valves in anything I’ve ever owned. Guess I’ll just leave it alone for now and plug it off. YES, I'm still having fun , even in NJ on the way through as the weather warms up.
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Check this out..........

The Titan S/S came with its original magneto and it was one of those slightly tight items from sitting for years, so I pulled it apart and cleaned it. While putting it back together, the trip finger sure looked like something I had handled before. I went to my Magneto shelf, moved a few things around and in the back I saw this bright shinny Accurate magneto with the “MARK’S MAGNETO” rebuild tag still on it. It had the same trip finger, and it was an Accurate “U” magneto. I remember buying this from MARK’S MAGNETO while at the Canandaigua, NY summer show many, many years ago when he told me it was used on the Titan S/S engines . I thought someday I might get lucky and get a Titan S/S engine. Similar things have happened to me before with things. Strange isn’t it ?
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I was cleaning the engine up a bit today, and OOP’s - look what I found on the side shaft behind the gear cover. A gear with three missing teeth . It's been that way for a long time caused by some abuse along the way. I had to take the side shaft (S/S) apart to get it off. It wasn’t all that bad. I used the rear S/S bracket as a driver to get the fuel pump drive off after I removed the paint and built up rust under it. Getting the gear off the shaft was “FUN” . Fortunately I had enough room at the end of the key way to get a punch in and drive the key out. Of course the gear was stuck fast with paint and rust, but gave way to some steady encouragement. Now to find a gear, get one made, or weld up the teeth and grind the profile. Done that before on a straight tooth gear . Off to the “flea market” early in the morning with a stop at the gear shop and then the pole barn to pull the head off one of KK’s engines. I can tell it’s going to be another fun day in NJ .
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Hey Paul, When you come visit monday bring along the gear too.My #2 Cinncy might be able to fix it up.maybe the Wisco. His. Soc. has the gear drawing. They did for my 6 hp Mogul. Rob
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Rob: Already got the drawing . I'll bring it up along with the gear and KK's stuff . THANKS
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I worked on the slightly stuck governor today. I took off the cover and it had a lot of dirt & stuff in it so I cleaned it all out. The brass control rod was stuck , but it came loose with a little persuasion . I had to work it till it got nice and loose. Here is a photo of what the inside of the governor looks like on the 4HP Titan S/S .
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If that governor was off of one of KK'S engines it would be full of BS LOL
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