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Old 07-02-2014, 10:28:56 PM
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Ya. It gave me a good jolt. Especially when I spun it a bit faster. I'll get a new plug and plug wire. And see what i get. The plug wire on this looks original. It's pretty old..

I've never done an engine like this. I'm pretty new to this. I have built many quick 2 strokes like west bends and power products engines. I've never had anything close to this old. And even then, I've never really had to mess with the electrical stuff too much. I usually start with engines that are pretty clean and I make em faster.

Thanks for all the help. Valves will be next. They are pretty nasty. But it has compression.... Exhaust valve was open when sitting for years.



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Maybe you'll find something in here that helps.

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Oh great. Thanks! Great videos. Thanks!

Hey. On these model y's. Is there an alternative modern spark plug I can use? And what should the gap be?
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Surprisingly. The valves look perfect. Seats are perfect.. Bore is good. Piston.. Wrist pin. Everything looks great.

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Having some trouble getting the exhaust elbow off. I tried penetrating fluid.. It's stuck.
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Champion D-16 is a good plug. Should be available at just about any auto parts store. .025" - .030" should work.
Looks like there is a nipple and an elbow in your exhaust. Have you tried knocking the lock ring loose with a hammer & chisel? Even if it doesn't turn, it should split. If all else fails, cut off the nipple as close to the engine as possible and then use a hacksaw blade and cut a couple of slots in the remaining piece of nipple just down to the top of the threads. You'll be able to see when you get to that point. Should then be able to get penetrating fluid into the threads that way and drive the end of the nipple out with a big EZout or with a hammer & screwdriver. Either by turning it or by collapsing it.
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I use a j8c.
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Mine had a champion D-15 in it.


Ya. I've tried knocking the lock ring with a chisel and a hammer. The threads are so corroded under the ring that it just won't budge. I might have to cut it off.
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J8c looks like it won't fit. Ofcoarse I went to napa. I said either j8c or d16. She said d16 was not what I wanted. So I just grabbed the j8c. The d16 was a full size plug. J8c is a real small plug.
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The J8C has 14mm threads and your Model Y needs an 18mm thread plug, thus the D-16 recommendation.
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I know. That's why I mentioned it. I wanted to thank you for your help. It's an honest mistake. When talking about these old engines, just because

I did wind up buying the d-16. It's just like the flywheel info. A wmb is different than the y. But I understand how it can be mixed up because a lot of these old briggs engines after the model y are very similar.

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I got a cool nos valve spring compressor for $6.50 yesterday.

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My valve clearance is a bit too much.

Exhaust is .024. I intake is .015.

Is that too much or will they be ok like that?

I'm not sure where to get new valves.
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My apologies,
I was thinking you had a 5s when it was clearly a y.
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It's ok. Really. Not a big deal at all. I got the right plug.
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My gas tank is repairable. I can braze or solder a patch to the bottom.

But I can't get the fuel valve out. I try to loosen it and the tank feels like it's just gonna crush. Any tips?


Also. I pulled the mag assembly off. What's the best way to clean it? I don't want to screw up the electronics. And I can't seem to get the inner shroud part apart from the mag assembly.
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Looks like I'm the only one still interested in my y.

I need the bottom shroud brackets if anyone has them. I'd really appreciate it.

I need some advice. There's practically no paint left on my model Y. No decal remaining. Should I paint it? Or leave it alone and just clean it up internally?

I love the look of original paint stuff. But this might be a little past that.
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Post a picture of it. If it's that far gone I personally would repaint it but that can be a BIG controversy. You can make the brackets easy enough if noone has any for you.
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"Looks like I'm the only one still interested in my y."

Not true.
I still look to see what is happening with your engine whenever there is a new post.
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Thanks John. I appreciate it.

I'm figuring this out as I go. The mag is a little trouble. I do need a new condenser. I should replace the plug wire. But I can't figure out how to remove the inner tin that's attached to the mag/side cover. I'm just worried I will screw the mag up. The clearance between the flywheel and magneto is real small. If I take it apart I don't want to mess it up. Or pull a wire.

My valve clearance is a bit loose. Exhaust is .024 and intake is .014. So I might need to get new valves. But they will be fine for now.

To Jeff LaCrone. You can't see my pics? Does anyone else not see them? Maybe I did it wrong.

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Anyone have a picture of how the lower shroud brackets hold it on? Or measurements of them so I can make some?

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Oh... What's the easiest way to run it without a original style gas tank? If I hook up a bladder or a temporary tank without a check valve will it just flood?
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There is some brackets on e-bay
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Ok thanks. I'll go look

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I don't see em. You got a link?

I'd prob rather make some anyways. I'm getting too deep in expenses on this y. I'm not doing it to sell it or for monetary value. It's just for me. But I'll be a couple hundred into it after a gas tank muffler and clutch cover.
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