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Old 06-09-2019, 04:23:44 PM
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I donít want to remove Rotor cause that involved retiming engine and Iím in deeper than I expected with expertise needed to get this project to fire ! So after I get clips off that hold coil core and oil coil in place what cleaning of rotor and area should be done here what it looks like before disassembly .
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:27:56 PM
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Wire brush and compressed air. Make sure you put on some reference marks if you unbolt the magnet assembly.

The old coil is not just going to slide off. Cut it with a sharp utility knife and peal it off. The steel laminate core is most likely expanded from the rust. Clean the core as best you can.
Fitting the new coil takes some patience. Don't try to pound it on with a hammer. Put the core in a vise and gingerly file the inside of the coil until you get a nice tight fit. A little Vaseline will help.
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Old 06-10-2019, 01:31:02 AM
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Boy this is not as easy as I thought !!
Thanks Iím not taking the rotor off all marks are gone and I would not know how to time it so Iím going to do my best to clean up !
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:40:42 AM
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The service manual you ordered should have the timing procedure laid out for you.
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Old 06-10-2019, 12:34:48 PM
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Elevated it does but all rusted and corroded and I’m not an expert at any of this I’ve never seen any flywheel and points or coil like this before and all marks to time are gone !

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Well drove the 60 miles to take the parts back and the fellas wife was at counter and she ? The returns I told her owner ok’ed return on phone she still looked at me like she wasn’t going to ok it then asked me for a sales slip which he never gave me one I know why he wanted to hide the sale of these parts he’s had for years and I understand that but she just looked at me blankly well fella well she disappeared in another room and was gone for a few and owner appeared well got my return and I did give him correct #’s cause there the ones that fella gave me from here so any ways have coil on line on the way now I’m going to order the condenser with that #he gave me cause condenser # wasn’t right either I lucked out on this one !!!
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:44:39 PM
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Staring in from scratch returned all incorrect parts fella still insists I gave him wrong numbers but I wrote them down from here I’ve ordered all OEM parts the coil is from Rollo numbers from here condenser OEM a little more $ but know it’s right ! Now just Waite till they come in thanks everyone !!
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:12:20 PM
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Use a flat head screwdriver to pry off the clips on either end of the coil lamination bar. You have to remove the secondary ground wire to the ignition plate before pulling the coil out of the way. Clean either end of the laminations with a wire brush, then mount the bar in a smooth jaw vise. Use a block of wood and a hammer to push the dead coil off of the laminations. It should come off easily. I have never had to cut a coil off. Before sliding the new coil on, wire brush the entire length of the coil laminations, and spray the inside of the coil with wd-40 or thin oil. Slide the coil into position as carefully as you can. Make sure to put the piece of spring steel in place on the right side of the 290880 coil upon installation. Before snapping the clips back in place, clean the magnets on the rotor with 400-600 grit sandpaper and blow out with compressed air. This is an easy procedure, I just did one last month with a genuine Briggs coil. All of the gray body coils on ebay look like cheap chinese aftermarket parts. The genuine coils for these engines are black.

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Old 06-10-2019, 10:34:06 PM
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Ktron Iím not sure how you install the spring steel is it part of lament Iím waiting to take coil out after I get the new one and I purchased the black one that is distributed by think Roll !
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:45:44 PM
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There is a clip on either end of the coil lamination bar. If you turn the engine so you are looking at the side of the coil mount, you will see that the clip has an elongated oval hole in it. Put the blade end of a flat head screwdriver in there, and angle the screwdriver down, you can pry off the clips that way without damaging them. The lower half of the clip fits in a groove in the horseshoe part of the coil. The upper half of the clip snaps over the top of the coil laminations. When you get your new 290880 coil in the mail it will have a slip of paper in it which shows how to place the curved piece of spring steel on the shaft of the coil laminations. This keeps the coil located in the correct position should the coil have a loose fit on the laminations.

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Old 06-14-2019, 10:47:58 PM
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Well Ktron got my coil yesterday and they didn’t send me the original black one pictured in the add sold by ROP and on box it says replaces BS- 290880 the coil is cheap looking grey coil made in Taiwan ! I found it on amazon could not find the black one on E-Bay so now I’ve got to fight with seller cause in paperwork says I can return it but cost of return is as much as I paid for coil !! I called Amazon about this so I’ll have to jump through the hoops to get satisfaction I told Amazon all I want is what I ordered what is pictured a black coil not a grey one that replaces what is advertised !!

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Old 06-14-2019, 11:26:37 PM
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Not happy camper not what was advertised !!!
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Old 06-14-2019, 11:30:11 PM
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Hereís what they sent !
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I have that exact coil, as I remember I paid more than $21 for it. It was not the coil that I needed for my 23D. The correct one was NOS and over $100.
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Old 06-15-2019, 11:05:11 AM
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My issue is not with price I didn’t get the black coil I ordered I got a cheap Taiwan replacement I’m calling these shysters I will get what I want at no cost to me and this will be last business I do with Amazon not first time I’ve had a problem with purchases from them !

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Seems you can’t do business anywhere with out a hassle !! I gave correct # to a local Briggs dealer that sold me wrong part have $30 bucks in gas wasted now did business on line and got grey coil not black one as advertised !! If someone here can tell me that grey coil will work as good as the black one I’ll use it !!
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Old 06-15-2019, 03:02:48 PM
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You need to try and pay more attention. You accepted an incorrect coil from the dealer, when the part number on the box was obviously not what you needed. Yes, the dealer gave you the wrong part for your application, but you shouldíve never left with it. You knew the number didnít match. Now, this new coil is the wrong color... again, the ad plainly states that it ďreplacesĒ the oem number, and is an aftermarket part, not an original. Color should not be the deciding factor whether or not to purchase, as companies use example photos regularly. You are partially responsible for some of the misfortune youíve experienced in this adventure. Learn from it and go on. In my opinion, you should use the aftermarket coil you have. Is it as good as original? Maybe, maybe not. Is this a concours quality restoration? No. Is this engine going to be put to work, several hours daily? No. My impression is that you just want to hear it run occasionally. For no more money than you have in the new coil, I would use it and forget about color, and/or ďgenuineĒ parts. Just not needed for your application.
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Old 06-15-2019, 03:49:57 PM
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And, as cheesy as it sounds, you could go a step further and grind off the "Made in Taiwan" (which is usually much better than China, BTW!) and then paint it black.
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I am willing to bet Briggs has not made a replacement coil for your model for many years. Sometimes a part like a coil that has been sitting on a shelf in the back room of some shop can go bad just from age. Just because a part is made in another country does not mean it is bad or lower quality. Taiwan makes a lot of high quality parts and goods. Be glad they make them, Briggs never will again.
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Old 06-15-2019, 04:31:42 PM
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Elevated: good points I really didn’t see in add that it was a replacement and color I could care less I saw in these posts that these were inferior coils ! You are right just want it to run once in a while ! Thanks for the scolding !!

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Old 06-15-2019, 09:08:54 PM
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Going to use it !! The coil that is not looking foreword to assembling the metal core and getting it right !
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Old 06-16-2019, 08:50:55 AM
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Take plenty of pictures before disassembly. I usually forget to do this and sometimes it gets me in trouble when putting everything back together especially if there is a delay in between. Good luck with it.
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