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Old 07-29-2019, 10:46:13 PM
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Default Re: Cavanaugh & Darley Registry and History

There are 3 confirmed in australia. I once owned the one on ya list now and have also seen the other 2, one in new south wales and another in western Australia, all currently
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There are 3 confirmed in australia. I once owned the one on ya list now and have also seen the other 2, one in new south wales and another in western Australia, all currently
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Hi Mick, is the one in WA in the Great Southern region on a guys farm?, if not there is another one about 30kms from me,
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Another update to the list:

Cavanaugh & Darley:

SN 146 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - California
SN 253 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Wisconsin
SN 281 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Oregon
SN 302 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Louisiana
SN 333 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Oregon
SN 364 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Oregon
SN 380 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - British Columbia
SN 453 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - North Carolina (This one looks like a M.W. style engine)
SN ??? - 2.5hp - Oregon
SN ??? - 2.5hp - Australia - Cam mounted governor and homemade flyball governor
SN ??? - 2.5hp - Australia
SN ??? - 2.5hp - Australia

Montgomery Ward:

SN 47 - 4hp - Cam mounted governor - Michigan
SN ?? - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Pennsylvania

Could someone please confirm what number is stamped on the head of engine #453?

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Photo of head, showing ser #453
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Andy,
Here are a few photos of the C&D engine I told you about at the Steam Up. This engine resides in a private collection here in Oregon, beyond that I don't know where it came from. I got the opportunity to look at it and take these photos. The serial number appears to be 89. How does this support your theory on C&D engine history?
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Default Re: Cavanaugh & Darley Registry and History

This is an interesting thread. Thanks for starting it. I see in the last 2 posts that presumably the later engine(SN 453) has a machined head surface and the other (SN 89) is not machined. Was this difference based on the retailer/jobber/seller or just the age of the engine/SN?
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Thanks for the pictures Bill! Between these pictures of #89 and the photo of #453 that Steve posted I think we've gained a great deal of valuable information.

#89 confirms that my theory of the serial number indicating year of production is wrong. It confirms that they produced engines in numerical order, and sometime between 89 and 146 they changed the design of the governor arrangement.

#453 proves that C&D did indeed redesign and produce the 'improved' Red Devil with the fluted base and cylinder mounted gas tank.

We know from the existing advertisements that the 'improved' Red Devil (M.W) design wasn't offered until post 1906, near the time C&D ceased to exist. This along with the knowledge that serial numbers were in production order cements my belief that the Montgomery Ward style engines with two digit serial numbers were produced by a company other than C&D.

I would be more than happy to be proven wrong about this, but for that to happen we need more serial numbers from MW style engines.

Joel, glad you like the thread!

Here is the latest list:

Cavanaugh & Darley:

SN 89 - 2.5hp - Flyball governor -
Oregon
SN 146 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - California
SN 253 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Wisconsin
SN 281 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Oregon
SN 302 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Louisiana
SN 333 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Oregon
SN 364 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Oregon
SN 380 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - British Columbia
SN 453 - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - North Carolina (This one looks like a M.W. style engine)
SN ??? - 2.5hp - Australia - Cam mounted governor and homemade flyball governor
SN ??? - 2.5hp - Australia
SN ??? - 2.5hp - Australia

Montgomery Ward:

SN 47 - 4hp - Cam mounted governor - Michigan
SN ?? - 2.5hp - Cam mounted governor - Pennsylvania
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