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Saleman Sample Olds?


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Old 11-26-2007, 09:05:46 AM
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John,
The Salesman Sample engines were built by the factory for the traveling salesman to take with them. Remember, travel was by train and horse and buggy during this time frame and it would be almost impossible for the salesman to carry around a 1 1/2 HP engine, weighing probably 250 lbs or more, to show prospects. The little Olds I have weighs about 50 lbs. It would still get heavy if you had to carry it a long way but sure beat 250!. I would guess they probably had it situated on a 2 wheel dolly or cart of some sort to ease moving. With a scaled model, its just that, a scaled down version of a larger engine. I guess it would be correct to maybe say "all salesman samples are scaled models but all scaled models are not salesman samples". I know I've made this confusing.
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Very nice find Tommy. I have collected Olds engines for years, and have known of more than 6 of the salesman samples. Have seen 5, I think. Never have been able to own one. I think the one of Ozzie Hayhoe went to Andy Kruse.

The difference between the salesman sample and the models that have been built is that the salesman sample is copied from the 3 & 4.5 Hp square hopper Type A Olds with saxaphone style carb. I think Ozzie also called them 1/2 Hp. I don't know if they were ever sold as working engines. Strangely, Olds called different styles Type A, including square hopper, round hopper, and tank cooled.

The more recently built models are copied from the later production type R Olds with brass Lunkenheimer style carb. Strangely, I have never seen any literature or advertising on the type R Olds. Generally, thought they were built to meet competition, cheaper design, purchased carb. All within tight serial number range: 10 - 13,000.
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Len....I know this is an old post, but I have a salesman sample of an Olds with a mixer that isn't the saxophone style. It is the same as advertised in a catalog of Olds engines sold by Deyo Macey company in New York.
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Hi Mike,
Very nice engine. Does it have a nametag? What is the information on it?
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Many years ago, an Olds sales mans sample engine was featured in the gas Engine magazine. It was nickle pated and polished to the nines. Sure was a beautiful engine. i think that was back in the early '70s.
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Everyone is complimenting the poster on his find..........but I can't see it! Each time I click on his link, all my computer does is search for a link but nothing happens. What magic is used to see the pictures?
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It works for me! The pictures in post 23 that is. The pictures in the first post, I have problems with too!
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No tag Len.
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The links do not work for me either in post # 1, 10 & 11.


Dougs links work in post #4.



Turned off windows firewall & all security in Firefox and links still will not load.

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It could be that those pics were put there 12 years ago, wont work for me
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Good point! Never even noticed they were posted that long ago. Thanks for the tip.
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