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Restoration of the Rumely 6 (40 Posts so far)


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Old 06-29-2019, 09:09:41 AM
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That clutch looks almost identical to the clutch in our Wallis tractor. it is a twin disk too.
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New question about main bearing fit specifically thrust bearing

the Wauk 6MZ has std 2 5/8 main bearings (bearing catalog says also 2 3/4 but all mine are 2 5/8). The machine shop doing the work says the bearings fit reasonably (some with 0.040 to 0.080 shims) except the thrust which has a much higher gap for the most part - requiring maybe as much as 0.200 in shims! they are nervous about this worried the specified bearings are the wrong bearing for the thrust bearing only? their solution stick with the bearings removed from that block specifically (which mean rebabitt). The cap side seems to fit better with "normal" shim requirements.

I will measure the height of each thrust bearing half (I have a number of engines and bearing sets) to see if there is a variance among them - if there is it suggest the bearing heights would have been shortened over time - was that customary?

attached is a photo of the block journal - this one used thrust washers (note the roll pin). Some of the bearing sets have flanged thrust surfaces and some have the separate thrust washers (newer)

What are we missing here? Could the face of the journal been machined over the years (does not look like it)? Could the bearing height have been machined as the bearing wore and the backer brass was added to take up wear (some blocks had backer brass strips behind the each bearing but very thin 010 or 020)? what was customary to refit for wear in the old days? the wauk service manual gives a general description of this fitting but mostly say leave it to the experts...
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getting to the last details of the restoration - metal tag -

any suggestions where I could have these made - I think Aluminum?
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Rob Gill from KY makes custom tags for old engines, etc. He could probably make you one.
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some more progress on the Rumely 6 "fleet"

Tractor no1 should be completed SOON!!!!! photos to follow

Engine no2 on the hook and ready to go back on the tractor

Engine no3 in final assembly in the machine shop - including new aftermarket 060 pistons no sleeves. These pistons were patterned after original std sized pistons (4 1/4). This tractor will remain "original" unrestored as the sheet metal was well taken care of by the previous owners

engine no4 still in weld shop for crack repairs to the block- lots of cracks and unfortunately a low priority for the shop

attached is a photo of Engine no 2 on the hook - note the Allis Chalmers Orange. this is the tractor my family farmed with into the early 60's and I was old enough to carry gas cans to the field - plan to have that one orange. the rest of my 6's were all green and the green is still prominent under the orange paint. oh the good old days of lead based paint!

ok back to work!
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and on the tractor
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Now with head installed. Used a spray copper product to prep the head gasket - sure is more simple then the paint brush. Note spin on style oil filter - another innovation to improve the engine especially for a run in period. Can go back to the canister style which has been extensively discussed in some other threads

next - the carb and gear cover plate - and then fire it up!
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First coat on Rumely #1 - Brewster Green (Dupont paint)
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ok back at the Rumely project this week. Picked up engine #3 from machine shop - looks great. As mentioned earlier new pistons 060 over no sleeves. There is quite a contrast between modern piston and the standard cast iron 4 ring. I will be interested in checking compression between the various engines - as I have new rings but re-used pistons on engine #2.
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Rumely #2 operational and ready for the restoration shop

notice the temporary fuel tank - hopefully that is large enough to get the beast on the trailer as it sure is thirsty
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for you Rumely 6 guys out there the manuals and literature I have found for this model is as follows

- two nice brochures from the Wauk historical society describing the 6MZ engine in various configurations (no photos contact WEHS)

-the original operating manual

- a very detailed bulletin put out by the US Army detailing the (later version) of the engine - including demolition!

- general instructions for Wauk flathead engines - some unique info like bearing fitting

- a detailed parts catalog for the 6M from Waukesha - later versions of the engine

- repair price list of ALL parts that went into the tractor
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Rumely 6 - number 3 nearing reassembly with rebuilt block
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