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2 1/2 hp La Crosse (Sta-Rite) is now home


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Old 10-09-2019, 09:13:24 PM
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My dad and I just got our 2 1/2hp La Crosse home after an 18 hour round trip drive to North Dakota. The serial number is 8462 which makes it a 1915 thanks to Dennis Rouleauís awesome registry. Itís got the original muffler and original crank guard which are usually missing on these engines. Itís missing the 2 part rocker arm as well as the connecting rod/piston. These shouldnít be too hard for us to make however if anyone knows where to find these thatíd be super. Thereís a small freeze crack on the water hopper but that shouldnít be too bad to braze. At some point in this engineís life the farmer threw away the ignitor trip and drilled out the guts of the ignitor to make it a spark plug engine like Iíve seen done on several Sta-Rites. That being said we might be able to rebuild the ignitor using the plate that is already there. All in all itís a great little engine and I canít wait to get it running again.
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Old 10-09-2019, 10:50:19 PM
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Congratulations on you purchase. It has the potential of being a very nice engine with having the original crankguard and muffler. Rarely do you find them with both of these parts. It is amazing how Sta Rite changed their engines so much. I have 8451 which was probably made the same week if not the same day as yours was made and it has a completely different hopper style and size.
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:06:03 AM
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I add your Sta-Rite to the registry here:
http://buzzcoil.brinkster.net/starite/page101.html

Anyone else with a Sta-Rite that could be added to the registry?
It's painless and also "free"! Just email me some pictures of your Sta-Rite.

Denis Rouleau
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:49:51 AM
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Congratulations. Sta-rite is one of my very favorite engines! I haven't seen the crack on your Hopper but I would be very careful of brazing it. I don't know if you're familiar with all the Articles here on cast iron welding? There are a lot of good ones on the Forum archives. If it was mine I think I would metal Stitch it.
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:58:37 AM
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Or JB Weld it, Safer than Brazing!
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It is amazing how Sta Rite changed their engines so much. I have 8451 which was probably made the same week if not the same day as yours was made and it has a completely different hopper style and size.
I couldnít agree more that Sta-Rite changed their style a lot. Itís funny the differences between all other Sta-Rites and then the type Js like yours. While they look pretty normal for a 1 1/2hp engine they are totally different than all other Sta-Rites. The attached photo shows the crack on the water hopper. Weíll probably end up JB welding it but metal stitching would work nice as well, thatís the plan for the 4hp basket case Sta-Rite that we have since the freeze crack on that one is super nasty. But thatís another story for another thread.

The other picture shows a hint of green as well as the red that originally covered the engine. Our theory is that Sta-Rite painted at least some parts in their green paint before they realized they had to put them on a La Crosse tagged engine.
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With a lot of Deep Creep we got the valves out and now everything is unstuck. They clearly weren't the original valves. Does anyone know what valves we should use? Assuming we need to make valve guides so the new ones fit, any recommendations on making a valve guide? I was thinking of turning bronze stock on a lathe though I would prefer to buy something if it exists.
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If you JB Weld don't forget to put some good primer (epoxy primer is ideal) on the inside of the water hopper!!! This will seal the inside. Over time the hot water on the back side of JB Weld will make it swell and weaken. A good seal on the inside will for sure help. Nice engine - hope to see it next fall at Old Threshers!!! S.Alt
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Work is going faster than expected on it. Hopefully it will be ready by then. We decided to use metal stitches on the hopper but thanks for the tip on the JB weld. The metal stitches will be good practice for when we have to use it on our 4hp Sta-Rite. We got a rod and piston from eBay the other day for a 3hp Fairbanks but the bore is the same for the LaCrosse too. Hopefully it will work out that all we have to do is change the rod on it. The first picture is of our new rod and piston. The second one is how you normally donít see engines, flipped upside down to get a better look at the hopper crack.
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With the crack going through the core plugs holes, it will make stitching fun. I think one should be able to start at the holes with just enough of the pin in the edge you can thread it. I have welded several and ground to shape through the threaded areas and carefully tapped it. With no leaks.
I like welding but one always runs a risk of trouble. If one fails to keep the cylinder temp in parr with the block it will snap in a perfect circle usually in the center. I have also just started heating a block and all the hair line cracks went pop with then spiderwebs every where on the block. I spent 6 hours welding a block once that way. It just kept spreading.
Some times I use bronze rod because it takes less heat.
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