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My Great Grandpa's First Steam Tractor


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Old 07-11-2019, 07:37:06 PM
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I have this picture of my Great Grandpa Herman Nickelson's first Steam Tractor in action threshing wheat on his farm south of Penokee Kansas abt 1910. I was hoping a member could tell me the make and model of the tractor.

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It is an early Advance.
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Thank You Beth, I will research it farther
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Jayhawkokie,
Welcome to Stak! Yep, Beth nailed it and the markings on the tanks are a dead giveaway.

I'll also suggest you may get more responses if you ask to have the thread moved over to the "Stationary Steam & Traction" section. That's where most of the steam folk hang out.

Neat picture and even more so with the family connection!.....PD
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Looks to be about a 16hp?.Great picture
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Water must have been far away with those extra barrels behind the engine. Or it was a bit of a water hog considering that is an older straight cleat engine and the photo is from 1910. May have been a little worn in the valve and cylinder department. Cute engine, looks smaller than a 16 to me.
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When the family first moved to northwest Kansas in 1884 it was a real struggle to survive, droughts and severe winters, the family had to return to Nebraska for a few years to survive, they moved back in 1899. By 1910 they were starting to get successful, I would assume they had to buy a tractor that was affordable at the time. That is great grandpa Herman Nickelson at the throttle. Yes water was scarce, they had to depend on windmills to provide water.
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This is Grandpa's harvest crew I think sometime in the 20s, he owned 5 different threshers, not sure how many steamers. I also included a picture of his Case steamer, he sold it for scrap in 1942, something he always regretted

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I remember Dad mentioning they also owned a Nichols Shepard, he called it a Nicholson Shepard, we saw one identical to theirs at Pioneer Village in Minden Nebraska in the late 50s, Dad stepped over the ropes so he could get a closer look at it.
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The family must have been well off, most people at that time couldn't have bought a tractor like that.
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After several lean years there was a period of bumper wheat crops and many farmers got out of debt and purchased more land. My Great Grandparents by no means wealthy were able to live a comfortable life style in their later years.
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Beautiful pictures and story. My grand parents started out in South Dakota. Had a few good years but poor medical help forced them back to their Illinois home town for Grand mother to survive. They regreted not being able to stay out there. I think today the climate they had in Oklahoma has migrated here, as the last few years sounds the same as what they went through there at the time.
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This is Grandpa's harvest crew I think sometime in the 20s, he owned 5 different threshers, not sure how many steamers. I also included a picture of his Case steamer, he sold it for scrap in 1942, something he always regretted

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The engine in the second picture looks to be a 65hp?
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Wheat harvests in those days took a lot of hired hands, ones to operate the header and barges to cut the wheat and stack it and ones to operate and pitch wheat in to the thresher. My Grandpa had a cook shack, basically a mobile kitchen they took to the fields and Grandma cooked and fed the crews in the field.
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https://www.smokstak.com/forum/showt...=case+pictures

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I'm going to stick my neck out and call that little Advance a 12 hp. Gary

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This is Grandpa's harvest crew I think sometime in the 20s, he owned 5 different threshers, not sure how many steamers. I also included a picture of his Case steamer, he sold it for scrap in 1942, something he always regretted

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First one is a 25 hp Case pulling a Case threshing machine, apparently set up for wing feeders.
The second one is a 65 hp Case. Gary
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It sounds like your grandpa and his Case were victims of the WWII scrap drive propaganda...

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It sounds like your grandpa and his Case were victims of the WWII scrap drive propaganda...

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Yes it was Keith, he regretted selling it years later
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Thank You for the information on the case tractors Gary. We still have his last Case Thresher, Dad, Grandpa and several of the neighbors got it in running condition in 1959 and we all spent a day threshing oats one last time. Grandpa bragged his machine did such a great job cleaning the wheat a rooster would starve looking for grain in the straw stack. Grandpa had a hand who was an artist, he painted a skinny rooster scratching in a straw stack on the side of the thresher housing, you used to be able see remnants of the beak and feet paint. I took this picture in 2015.

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Grandpa bragged his machine did such a great job cleaning the wheat a rooster would starve looking for grain in the straw stack. Grandpa had a hand who was an artist, he painted a skinny rooster scratching in a straw stack on the side of the thresher housing, you used to be able see remnants of the beak and feet paint.

Not to detract from their creativity, but I suspect your Grandpa or his artistic hired hand had once threshed with an Aultman Taylor, and thought the Case machine worthy of AT's slogan and logo.

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I'm going to stick my neck out and call that little Advance a 12 hp.
I don't think you're sticking your neck out nearly as far as that skinny chicken. The photo sure looks like the engine is a fairly small unit to me, but with a blower on there, I suspect a little more spunk than 10HP would be nice, so I was thinking about 12HP too.

I've fired a couple times while Jerred Ruble's 14HP Minneapolis was belted to his Victory threshing machine: manual bundle cutting (like I think I see in the picture), bottom grain delivery, and just a straw apron, the machine seems to eat power about like a newer machine all decked out with a big feed assembly, blower, and tall grain delivery.
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