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"Cemsa" TC1 tractor - Italian Titan


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I'd like to share my latest addition to our family collection. Even if it is not an USA-built tractor I thought you might like to see it. It is an Italian version of the well known Titan tractor. Not much is known about this tractor. Production started in 1927. It was built in Saronno (Italy). Cemsa was established by the famous Alfa Romeo engineer "Nicolas Romeo", after he bought the "Costruzioni Elettro Meccaniche di Saronno" factory. As far as I know the factory made cars, steam engines and tractors. In 1935 Nicolas Romeo was forced to sell the factory because of financial reasons. It was sold to IRI (another Italian company, established by Benito Mussolini and others). The year after it was sold to Gianni Caproni (One of the key figures of the famous Isotta Fraschini automobile company).

I was lucky to buy this tractor from the family of the original owner. A picture of the owner is uploaded in my Photobucket library. You can see the tractor on the background. If you like the pictures/story I can upload more.

I hope you enjoy the tractor as much as I do. It is another tractor that shows how close to American and European tractor market was in those days.

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http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/be...emsa%20tractor

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Benoit,

Wonderful amazing and nice find.


Realy nusts about these one of and kind exotes.


It was was realy nice to have you here an coople weeks ago.


Keep us up to date when you work or do something on the tractor,


Chris,..............
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Neat tractor!
Note that Caproni and Campani were two who built and flew the world's first jet airplane in early 1939.
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Benoit, 'stak has become a world forum. It's always good to see what is and has been made on other continents on our planet. Thanks for your post.
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Benito Mussolini,

Many years ago the Discovery channel had an ocean liner day.

The hole day they where broadcasting the story‘s of the old ocean liners.

I have been record this day on all the chapters to watch it back many times.

The old ocean Liners time was the same time as the old and early tractors.

So i am very intrested in this subject aswel

They came up in the begin of the 20st Century and ended in the begin of the 50’s with the last one that was buld the United States (the big U) before the airplanes realy came up.

Almost every country that was doing the transatlantic routes had them.
And they where constandly in an race, competion with each others of who had the most fast one (blue ribon) and who had the most beautiful one.


Benito Mussolini was also very busy with this.
He brought all the big Italian ship yarts together under the govrnement commande to buld an coople gigantic ships called.

SS. REX
MS. AUGUSTUS
SS. CONTE DI SAVOIA


The SS. REX was the Italian flag ship of all the Italian liners.

Benoit want to post an video for you and your wonderful Titan tractor find from my Youtube friend Psari about the SS. REX.

Hope to vizit you soon one time.


Greatings from Holland,


Chris







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Benoit,

Wonderful amazing and nice find.


Realy nusts about these one of and kind exotes.


It was was realy nice to have you here an coople weeks ago.


Keep us up to date when you work or do something on the tractor,


Chris,..............
Will certainly keep you updated, just as I promised the family of the original owner. They would like to see it running again after the restoration.
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Benoit thanks,

With restauration,

Hope you are mention with this.
Technical, running and small cosmetical restauration and not repaint.

The tractor is having realy ancient patinas looking and we hope you keep it that way.

There are lot of ways to preserve it in working clothing for the future.

It is an one of an kind tractor and it shoult be stay this way.

An part of my family came in the early days from your town when they came from France an coople century’s ago like it told before.



Keep us informed,


Chris,
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Benoit thanks,

With restauration,

Hope you are mention with this.
Technical, running and small cosmetical restauration and not repaint.

The tractor is having realy ancient patinas looking and we hope you keep it that way.

There are lot of ways to preserve it in working clothing for the future.

It is an one of an kind tractor and it shoult be stay this way.

An part of my family came in the early days from your town when they came from France an coople century’s ago like it told before.



Keep us informed,


Chris,
We will certainly preserve the original paint!
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Amazing piece of machinery!

Some parts the topicstarter might recognise:





It has to be said that the quality of the casted parts is extremely good.
The machining of these parts reminds us of machining high alloy steels.
Also the tolerances of the parts (which were not worn) out are remarkably tight.
The people who made these at the time knew what they were doing!

Kind regards.

PH
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Looking great Pieter H,

Keep us up to dates about this amazing rare tractor.

Say hello to Benoit,

Chris
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The front axle is back in the state he left the factory quite a while ago:



A picture to give an idea on how we had to create something to clamp the kingpin to be able to machine the conical steering mounting point:



We wish Benoit's team a lot of succes and joy with assembling the rest of this beautiful piece of history!

Kind regards,

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