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Old 03-06-2012, 11:54:41 PM
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Default 10 20 Titan bearings

Hi I am sure this has probably been discussed before but I couldn't find anything.

Does anyone know where I can get replacement roller bearings for the front and rear wheels for a 10-20 Titan? It is a 1920.

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Default Re: 10 20 Titan bearings

Hi ,I wasn't aware they had roller bearings in the rear wheels. I think mine (1921) has plain bearings. Try Kaman Industrial Technologies in Nj for the front rollers. You may have to ask for them by sizes not part no.s Rob
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Yep. the book that I have shows them as roller bearings.

Thanks for the lead, I appreciate it.

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Default Re: 10 20 Titan bearings

I put a PTO extension on a Farmall Regular that I rebuilt. The straight roller bearing that supports the end of the extension had several of the rollers badly damaged by rust. I made new rollers out of precision ground hardened steel shaft and installed them in the original roller cage. Worked out just great! The hardened shaft only cost $15. Maybe you can do this with your bearings??
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Default Re: 10 20 Titan bearings

I doubt whether you can still find those but if you can save the cages you can make new ones yourself. Depending on the hub bore it may need re-boring as well. You can compensate with thicker rollers. I posted pictures in on or another thread but can't find them right now.

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Default Re: 10 20 Titan bearings

I would bush them with bronze.
You could use a steel sleeve and bush that to save on the cost of bronze.
I don't believe any Hart Parr tractor ever built had anything but bushed wheel hubs all around.
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Like Craig said . . . been there and done that . . . the bronze worked great and no problems. One of the Titans I did with bronze, was restored over 30 years ago and is still going strong. I have made new rollers for a different Titan, but for all the work to machine the axle, boring of the hub and then machine new over-sized rollers for the bearing cages, if it were mine and it had a lot of wear, I'd go the bronze bushing route.
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Default Re: 10 20 Titan bearings

I would try to see if they are available. If they are standard size there might be something out there. I got a new ball bearing unit for the 1918 GS&M Beaver tractor, friction drive shaft from a good local bearing supply!
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Berliss Bearing makes some sizes of the old style pencil bearings, you can register and download the catalog at www.berliss.com . Motion Industries is a distributor.
With that said, I am going to replace the pencil bearings in my Titan wheels with bronze bushings. The late titans had bushings instead of bearings and they held up just fine.
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I went the long route on my 18/32 Case. I found new outside cages. The axle itself was worn too bad & we finally had to make a new one. The rollers I ended up having made out of std shafting & heat treated. We talked about bushing but my shaft was too worn.
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I bushed my Titan with bronze, it worked well over ten years.
I was wondering what your opinion of using nylon would be?
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