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Old 05-07-2012, 10:42:29 PM
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Default Putnam steam engine running

Here is a video of a friends 1865 Putnam steam engine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8I0I...feature=relmfu
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:52:00 PM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

An absolute beauty! Thanks for sharing!....PD
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:01:14 PM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

Impressive! Thanks for sharing. Jason
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:09:04 PM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

Very Nice! that is one beautiful restoration.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:42:18 PM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

Here is the 2nd video that was shot later on in the day. What a nice piece you have there Greg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTVBb...feature=relmfu
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:52:57 PM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

I noticed that there two ecentrics but did not see a reverse lever. Is this a cutoff goverened engine? Ron
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:30:59 PM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

Greg, that's one beautiful engine. Congratulations! Is that a riding cut-off? I don't see a means of adjusting it. It's definately the earliest Putnam I've ever seen, even in books. As a guy that likes stationary engines, I'm drooling. There has got to be a good back story on this one. Can you share it?
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:46:40 PM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

It sure is a beauty. In the second video you can see the governor linkage attached to what appears to be a throttle valve above the steam chest.

Jim, I'm pretty sure the second eccentric is either for an independent cut-off valve (secondary slide valve in a separate steam chest) or a riding cut-off valve (secondary slide valve riding on the back of the main slide valve), either of which to provide for a faster rate of cut-off. As you note, there doesn't appear to be any means of readily adjusting either the valve travel or angular advance on this engine so adjustment, if possible, would be limited to manually changing the eccentric's angle of advance on the crank shaft. Hopefully somebody will be able to tell us what kind of gear the engine has. Would love to know more about it and its history.

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Old 05-10-2012, 12:25:13 PM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

Thanks for the interest. This has been a long project that is finally nearing completion!
The engine is 6 inch bore, 24 inch stroke with a 6 foot flywheel. The box bed is 11 feet long.
I was told it was originally in the Payne (sp??) furniture factory in Boston but have no proof. It has gone through a couple of owners before me. I am guessing by the small bore, long stroke and general design that it is in circa 1860-1865. The finish work is done to a very high quality with wonderful attention to detail.

The outer eccentric operates the cut off valve in the outer chest. The inner eccentric operates the normal long D slide valve in the inner chest. The cutoff timing is not adjustable without changing the eccentric position on the crankshaft. The governor operates a butterfly valve in the steam inlet casting. It is running on 50 PSI in the video and seems very happy at that pressure.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:20:45 PM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

There is a local museum that runs a Corliss engine of about 16 x 30" bore/stroke with 3-4psi that is generated by a "regenerative blower" of 5hp. No horsepower is generated, but it turns it nicely. Even the blower salesman was impressed.
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:42:34 PM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

There's another Putnam on Practicalmachinist.com under antique machinery...might be the same one?
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:07:47 AM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

No, that one on PM my latest engine rescue. I have two Putnams. An early 1860's D-Valve Putnam with every nut&bolt numbered and hand fitted and this later mill engine with cutoff governor. An, interesting feature of the mill engine is that retains the old style box bed. The later or larger Putnams used a girder frame.

Here are a two photos of the 6x12 Putnam D-valve engine as found and now. And, the 9x21 Putnam Cutoff regulated mill engine as found, and bed removal via adjacent window.
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

The cutoff governor is interesting, I'll post a few pics of that from the mill site.

Its all at home now. I would like it setup on a heavy trailer. Now a lot of cleaning and re-assembly.

Finally a catalog cut from 1902.

There you have a mini survey of Putnam engines.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:41:26 AM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

Intersting how these engines are still being stumbled into.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:01:41 PM
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

I would not say stumbled. Although point well taken, some stuff is still out there. This engine has been known about since 1960. Not talked about on the web. Since, I found out, been waiting, watching and biding my time. All comes to he who waits, or lives long enough. I specifically wanted a Putnam like this, not just something I stumbled across at random, like that Unaflow/circus a while back.

Now in way of contrast, I had a chance, some years ago, to buy a few items out of an estate from a 1950's collector. He had a 5 gallon bucket 1/2 filled with steam engine ID tags! I got two Putnam tags and there were several more Putnam tags I had to leave behind. He had 4 or 5, medium size, mill engine governors, one a Putnam (I could not buy). A complete corliss engine. All this was found local, back in the day. Basically there was a hugh amout of this stuff around in the 50's and 60's. It is absolutely much, much, harder to find anything now. Too say stuff keeps turning up, is in drop in bucket to what used to be available 1/2 century back. And bigger stuff while turning up is more often lost than saved. Thats probably always been the case for one reason or another. Hi scrap prices, injury liability and other removal issues or general PIA to the owner. So the supply shrinks.
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Peter, that has to be the find of a lifetime!. I've read a lot about Putnams, but have never heard of one still in existence. Finding a cut-off engine is one thing, but finding the one that still exhibits the box bed is fantastic. Do you have her running yet? I'd love to see that valve gear in action! - Jim Mackessy
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Nice, really great job!
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Photo Re: Putnam steam engine running

Here is a Putnam that I have been after for many years. It's very similar to Greg's engine but a little bigger. I didn't know what it was until a couple days ago. It's about a 10' flywheel by 14" wide. Not sure of the bore and stroke.
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Owwwww Steve, another one! Nice fancy bed.

I see a lot of rust, but seems like nothing broken - hopefully all there.

Maybe you will get your chance and bring that one back.
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Default Re: Putnam steam engine running

Excellent thread. I love these stationary engines. These in particular are so rare. This archaeology is great and all of your efforts are appreciated much! My T button quit.
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