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Old 03-07-2017, 09:46:39 PM
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Default Unknown Boiler and steam engine.

This little unit is an Ebay purchase and I'm curious as to whom built it. I believe it is a commercial model. Boiler is 6" dia x 13" tall. It has a gas burner marked Fletcher Warrington.

I like the boiler especially..early riveted construction with some very early fittings. The fire box casting may be a clue to manufacturer. Anyone have an idea or a guess?

The engine flywheel is six inch diameter. Odd little thing. Anyone?
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Old 03-16-2017, 09:06:09 PM
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Default Re: Unknown Boiler and steam engine.

Please see additional pics under the toy steam engine forum Thanks!
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Old 03-16-2017, 09:18:53 PM
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Default Re: Unknown Boiler and steam engine.

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How about posting how to get to this web site., I could not find it.
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Default Re: Unknown Boiler and steam engine.

The wonderful repair job someone did on the cylinder See? You never know what hides beneath gobs of black paint on Ebay.

Fortunately I bought it because of the boiler which is unmolested. Now this engine is only about 3/4" bore mated with this huge boiler. Of course the engine ran "balls to the wall" and every single part of it shows wear. What happened to the cylinder I have no idea.

I can fix it like new..no problem there. It looks like a piston valve inside the port still holding the broken piece of inlet pipe. I wonder if the end of the piston valve has been cut off and the "port" on the end of the steam chest soldered shut.

No time to fool with it now..I'm working on a much bigger boiler now

Anyone knows who made the engine or boiler? Anybody?
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Default Re: Unknown Boiler and steam engine.

All the fittings on this little boiler are shown in the Sipp Catalog. I am asuming the boiler is a Sipp in a smaller size. Any Sipp experts here?
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Old 04-02-2017, 03:09:08 PM
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Default Re: Unknown Boiler and steam engine.

The good news is Lester that you can probably get rid of that "dee-luxe" cylinder repair in a couple of minutes with a propane torch. Hope there aren't any more horror stories under the solder.
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Default Re: Unknown Boiler and steam engine.

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The good news is Lester that you can probably get rid of that "dee-luxe" cylinder repair in a couple of minutes with a propane torch. Hope there aren't any more horror stories under the solder.
I bet one more roll of solder and they would have gotten it!!!!!!!

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Default Re: Unknown Boiler and steam engine...Saved it :)

Well..there was more horror beneath the GLOB but I saved it from a monstrous death

You can see how the original builder used nothing but rectangular and round tubes and brass sheet to make the porting and port face. The cylinder started out as a bobbin and everything else attached with solder.

I knew I wouldn't have the patience to recreate this construction nor did I want too. I ended up machining a new port face from hard drawn brass and cutting the various passages and ports into it. You can see how I managed to get the steam to the ends of the cylinder. I tinned the cylinder and port block with High temperature Tin solder and managed to sweat the two together without any leakage or cross-overs.

The pic also shows two D valves both too short. Those little bitty pieces next to the original D valve are very important. I initially didn't realize they were extension's to the original valve. I found out that the hard way. With the short D valve the engine ran but had a constant blowby sound.

So I started over with bronze this time and made a longer valve. Viola! Sweet!
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Default Re: Unknown Boiler and steam engine.

I always try and keep things original as possible as long as things work properly. I am almost positive the seven spoke flywheel is the same as a small Sipp. It is 6 inches in diameter..a very substantial flywheel for this engine.

I had to make a new crankpin. I didn't mess with the small end pin where it goes into the crosshead. This is drilled cockeyed and peened in place. I didn't want to take the chance of breaking the fragile crosshead.

The eccentric strap is also pretty loose but this doesn't affect the valve timing. I also made a new valve rod and valve retainer. I used four 3-48 studs to hold the steam chest in place rather than screws.

Oh..Crankshaft diameter is 1/4" and those bearing blocks are Babbitted. Really except for the cylinder this engine is very well made.

Still would like to know who made it. The castings are very nice and well done and it doesn't seem to be a home made engine. The original screws seem to be "BA" thread so there is a very good chance it is English or European. Any guesses?

She runs sweet as silk and purrs like a kitten A nice project after my much bigger boiler project!
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:27:29 PM
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Default Re: Unknown Boiler and steam engine.

It has an extra eccentric next to the one which operates the D valve. This was meant to drive a little plunger pump to feed the boiler. Does anyone have an extra which has that "angle" base as shown by its mounting block next to the engine base?

Last pic shows the boiler which came with the engine.
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Default Re: Unknown Boiler and steam engine.

I went from this...to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWL-xM6NW1c&t=28shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWL-xM6NW1c&t=28s

I have done a lot of work to this engine since this video and will upload another showing my progress soon.

WHO MADE THIS ENGINE? Thank you!
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