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"Big Boy" 4014 Rolls into Echo Canyon Utah for Golden Spike 150th


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https://fox13now.com/2019/05/08/the-...rives-in-utah/

Good to see another steam engine here.
Doc

And a much better but longer view off youtube.

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https://youtu.be/pOFTlQHaQho
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rolling thunder comes to mind!
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Doc, 150 years ago today they drove the golden spike. May 10th, 1869.

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Back when I was just a kid then.... (or so it feels some days.) Here you go Robert....
https://kutv.com/news/local/thousand...ental-railroad
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Francis Bret Harte. 1839–1902

What the Engines Said

Opening of the Pacific Railroad

WHAT was it the Engines said,
Pilots touching,—head to head
Facing on the single track,
Half a world behind each back?
This is what the Engines said,
Unreported and unread.

With a prefatory screech,
In a florid Western speech,
Said the engine from the West,
"I am from Sierra's crest;
And, if altitude 's a test,
Why, I reckon, it 's confessed,
That I 've done my level best."

Said the Engine from the East,
"They who work best talk the least.
S'pose you whistle down your brakes;
What you 've done is no great shakes,—
Pretty fair,—but let our meeting
Be a different kind of greeting.
Let these folks with champagne stuffing,
Not their Engines, do the puffing.

"Listen! Where Atlantic beats
Shores of snow and summer heats;
Where the Indian autumn skies
Paint the woods with wampum dies,—
I have chased the flying sun,
Seeing all he looked upon,
Blessing all that he has blest,
Nursing in my iron breast
All his vivifying heat,
All his clouds about my crest;
And before my flying feet
Every shadow must retreat."

Said the Western Engine, "Phew!"
And a long, low whistle blew.
"Come, now, really that 's the oddest
Talk for one so very modest.
You brag of your East. You do?
Why, I bring the East to you!
All the Orient, all Cathay,
Find through me the shortest way;
And the sun you follow here
Rises in my hemisphere.
Really,—if one must be rude,—
Length, my friend, ain't longitude."
Said the Union: "Don't reflect, or
I 'll run over some Director."
Said the Central: "I 'm Pacific;
But, when riled, I 'm quite terrific.
Yet to-day we shall not quarrel,
Just to show these folks this moral,
How two Engines—in their vision—
Once have met without collision."

That is what the Engines said,
Unreported and unread;
Spoken slightly through the nose,
With a whistle at the close.

Robert
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I have been enjoying the videos of Big Boy. But I have been wondering why it is always hauling what looks like a Diesel loco.

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The diesel locomotive is used for dynamic braking. Dynamic braking uses the electric traction motors as generators to slow down the train.

There is also a rumor that the FRA also has a mandate that a diesel be present for it's air compressors for the air brakes. They are not to rely solely on the steam locomotives air compressors.

These steam engines are old. The diesel can be used to help on the long up grades to minimize wear on the steam locomotives mechanical parts.


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Default Re: "Big Boy" Rolls Into Utah For Golden Spike 150th

I can only imagine the monumental task of linking both sides of the nation with rail. I'm sure at first it seemed inpossible. There were probably places where 2 miles of track took as long to finish as 50 miles elsewhere. All of this gave birth to towns springing up along the rail line. Goods being made available that would have taken months to get to a destination. Factories and mills now had acess to market goods nation wide. I'm sure it was a fantastic time to be alive and observe.
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Promontory is where the tracks met, but later they built a short cut across the Great Salt Lake. Where is Promontory from Ogden? I think they removed the tracks after they made the short cut in '42.
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Roughly 52 miles between Promontory UT and Ogden UT by road.

An interesting article on the un-spiking event. http://trn.trains.com/railroads/rail...n-spike-part-2

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Promontory is where the tracks met, but later they built a short cut across the Great Salt Lake. Where is Promontory from Ogden? I think they removed the tracks after they made the short cut in '42.
Promontory is far north of Ogden. Look at North tip of Great Salt Lake, where tracks could go around lake. Closer to Tremonton on northern boarder.

They are now squabbling about pulling causeway (shortcut) out because the instsllation changed the salinity in the Northern part of the lake. It actually created some very productive wetland marsh areas. Removing causeway would now destroy major bird refuge areas.

From my perspective the causeway was and is a good thing. But the environmentalists take offense to anything that isn't 100% "natural". The only thing that lives in the lake otherwise is brine shrinp. Seems really stupid to destroy productive wetland just because it was a side effect of something man made.
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Where do the tracks go across the Great Salt Lake now?
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Where do the tracks go across the Great Salt Lake now?
Has been decades since I visited the lake. (Locals NEVER visit lake, only tourists.) As I recall the causeway paralelled the road out to Antelope island and then continued across the lake. So east end around Clearfield (latitude about same as south end Hill AFB. Only drove the west side of lake once. Have no memory of where tracks crossed. But I do recall they passed just north of Wendover at state line. So could probably draw a line from Clearfield to just north of Wendover.
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Update: I just recalled that a set of tracks runs around south end of lake, next to I-80 most the wsy to Wendover. Don't think causeway has been used for years. So main East West line has now shifted from top of lake (in Golden Spike days)
To middle of lake (causeway era) down to bottom of lake (? - present)

Pic works best. Shows all three routes.
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For you RR fans a link to the official celebration "Spike150" site. Lots of links and history.
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https://spike150.org/events/
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thank you for sharing.
just incredible machinery
up really covered the bases, two big boys and all the gear

lucky engineers
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Here's some info about "Big Boy"

https://www.up.com/heritage/steam/4014/index.htm

I read they used Ashton gauges too.
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