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10' Steel Wheel Driver


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Old 03-24-2007, 06:11:04 PM
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We just purchased this rear rim at a farm auction. The wheel measures 10'1" in either direction. As you can see in the picture the lugs that are left are of the cone style. As the wheel is still in the dirt I can't comment on if it is a 24" or a 30" driver. I have sent the picture to several collectors and no one has a good idea of what it fits. From what I can determine by looking in Wendels Tractor Encyclopedia, a 9' wheels was about as big as it got. Any ideas? We are just curious.
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Default Re: 10' Steel Wheel Driver

I would guess Pioneer but I really have no idea. Might post it on the steam forum too.
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Old 03-24-2007, 07:45:25 PM
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We checked that out and per Wendel's Encyclopedia of Farm Tractors and the 45 Pioneer used a nine foot wheel. Don't know...
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140 McVicker?
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The wheel is now out of the sod and loaded. It has a bull gear on it with internal teeth. There is also a front wheel approx 5' in diameter with round spokes. Any help yet?
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I just looked that up. Round spokes, yes. However, the double chain drive would not work on that type of bull gear??? Lugs were different.... It had to have been a very large tractor.
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I'm tempted to suggest Imperial, but I can't remember if they were flat or round spokes.
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The wheel is now out of the sod and loaded. It has a bull gear on it with internal teeth. There is also a front wheel approx 5' in diameter with round spokes. Any help yet?
Bruce??!!
Sounds like ya better do a whole lot more digging at that site! Dig up the whole county if you have to - you seem to be onto something very special !
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Thanks. Tomorrow I should be able to post a picture with the wheel hanging upright. The bull gear will be showing.
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Hello Bruce
Its been a while since we chatted. Your little Flour City is a nice looking piece. It is also great to see that your out beating the bushes for more parts and interesting things. Not sure about that wheel....hmmm
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Bruce,
Only a poke in the dark... This is a photo of one of the Woods-Geiser coversions and Alan Derting had a picture in the Iron Men Album about 10 years ago of the running gear he had from one. I don't remember the wheel height and the wheels in this picture have angle grouters instead of cones like yours... But.... I couldn't resist sending this along. The Geiser Peerless steam engine mounted on the Woods running gear was a Z-Z 36hp or a Z-3 40hp, for perspective.
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Attached are two pictures of the wheel standing upright. The width is 24". The bull gear bolts on in sections. Maybe these will help someone ID the wheel.
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Attached are two pictures of the wheel standing upright. The width is 24". The bull gear bolts on in sections. Maybe these will help someone ID the wheel.
Bruce,
How did you get that critter home? Did you lay it flat and go like heck being it was overwidth, or did you stand it up?

See you the end of April.
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The Happy Farmer tractor that my Dad owned had bull gear sections too, and a roller drive for the pinion. Not quite 10 feet though.
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Bruce, after doing some looking, I found in The First American Farm Tractors book by Jack Alexander Ch.2 pg. 4 it talks about an 1862 Brown Prairie Motor and gives a picture. Its a massive steam engine. It also goes on to say that it used 10' rear wheels. The tractor was shipped by rail to Nebraska City, Nebraska where it was operated. I'll keep looking and see if anything else jumps out at me. My first thought, though, I may be quickly corrected was could it be a 150 Case Wheel? Maybe some of the Case guys could provide more insight.
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We purchased the wheel a couple of miles north of Thunderhawk, SD. Thunderhawk is right on the rail line. There would have been a grain elevator and naturally a siding for unloading. There will be some more stuff unearthed and I am hoping for part numbers. The quadrant bull gears had no part numbers. Did the large steamer shipped to NE have internal tooth bull gears?
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I think there was a steamer that used a large driver that sat on smaller wheels/cogs inside the large driver? I have seen pictures but I don't remember where.

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Default Re: 10' Steel Wheel Driver

Bruce it does not say and I can not tell from the pictures. But it was the only thing that I could find with that Diameter rear wheels.
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My memory is shot, but didn't the giant tractor from NE have some kind of troubles and was scrapped on the spot?
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I would guess Pioneer but I really have no idea. Might post it on the steam forum too.
http://www.steel-wheels.net/pioneer.html shows a pioneer. Looks close.


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