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1919 International Harvester Titan 10-20


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This was the most versatile kerosene tractor, production from 1915 to 1922. Approximately 80,000 were produced and now less than 1,000 remain around the world. This model sold for $800.00.

Powered by a two cylinder engine with a 6.5" X 8" bore and stroke with a parallel crank, it is thermo-syphon cooled by means of a water tank which eliminated the need for a water pump or fan. It has two forward speeds and reverse with a top speed of 2.375 m.p.h.

This Titan ran a saw mill in West Virginia. It is owned by Don McDilda, Jr. of Fort Pierce, Florida. Displayed at the Florida Flywheelers Show 2009.

Here it is in motion at the Zolfo Springs, Florida show.

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I sure appreciate those photos! Thank you!
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very nice original
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Old 03-05-2009, 08:21:56 AM
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Thank you for the photos. I wonder what the value of it is and how much would you de-value it by painting it. Not that I would paint it or anything just wondering.
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Default Re: 1919 International Harvester Titan 10-20

Nice photos Harry, I thought I saw you at the Flywheelers show and was going to introduce my self but you were talking to someone and when I looked back you were gone. I dident know you could move that fast.
If I remember right the Titan was sitting by itself kind of in the flea market area. I wish they would had desiginated areas for tractors, steam, and engines. I know being a first timer at the show I got turned around a few times and probably missed alot.
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:34:14 AM
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Default Re: 1919 International Harvester Titan 10-20

Nice to see such a nicely maintained 10-20 in such fine condition. Thanks for the pics.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:01:43 PM
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Thanks Harry,
Less than a 1,000 now left. I wonder how many are in the prefered original condition that one is in?
I think it well known by now that many of the stakkers would never paint a well preserved piece of history like this. Arlyn White brings up a good question. Would this tractor be de-valued by painting it? There are still many people who have not come full circle in this hobby, and they appear to be slow in accepting tractors of any kind that are not "dressed for show". High roller auctions seem do do better when the items for sale are tattooed in colorful new mylar, and tacky pinstriping that is vainly paraded with the stench of new high grade automotive finishes
Next question; do you leave a tractor like this in its current rusty-dry finish, or scrub it clean, and treat it with a relatively clear preserving finish that would give it a cleaner, darker overall appearance? If so, what would you rub, brush, or spray on it?
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All I would do is store it inside and try to keep it from getting wet. Leave the finish original. But of course still keep it in operating condition.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:39:06 PM
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1% humidity will still cause the metal it to oxidize over time? So how do you protect it?
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Default Re: 1919 International Harvester Titan 10-20

That's a nice Titan........but aren't they all?
Some folks can't stand the sight of a spot of rust and others thrive on it.
I happen to be from the rust camp and the only thing I'd "paint" that with is the occasional wipedown with an oily rag or some heavy fuel.

It's missing the first reduction gear cover. Shon Jacobson, a member here under a different name (casesteamer), had some done that are first class in case the owner should want to complete his.
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Hey Craig,

I am pretty sure Shon doesn't have any left, but there may be a possibility of getting more made (not sure on how likely though)

Jeff

Craig here: I'd say THIS would be a pretty good place to find out what the demand is!
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Default Re: 1919 International Harvester Titan 10-20

That is awesome! Thanks for the pictures, it's a real nice looking tractor. I have always found that early horizontal twin cylinder design fasinating.....the rocking and popping! There is nothing like it!

I missed out on a 10-20 Titan this past summer. It was in good original condition with rear extensions. Could someone tell me what year it is.

Serial Number: TV48610
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I wonder how many are realy out there i know of 3 in Connecticut encluding mine ?? Is it possible there maby only 1000 or less. it wouold be nice to get some kind of # of how many are out there.
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Thanks Harry,
Less than a 1,000 now left. I wonder how many are in the prefered original condition that one is in?
I think it well known by now that many of the stakkers would never paint a well preserved piece of history like this.
The nicest original 10-20 Titan is now owned by Donald Webb of Amarillo Texas. Donald bought it from Harold Ottaway about 15 years ago. All the stenciling is perfect. The starting instructions on the fender and everything. When Harold got the tractor the owner still had the lugs wired together from the factory, they had never been put on. Harold had it at the Bird City Kansas show for years in the late 60's and early 70's.
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I missed out on a 10-20 Titan this past summer. It was in good original condition with rear extensions. Could someone tell me what year it is.

Serial Number: TV48610
It is a 1920 model.
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Default Re: 1919 International Harvester Titan 10-20

I was showing off my JD D to a good friend of mine and he said something that has stuck with me ever since. He said " she's got stories to tell", refering to the originality. As nice as some paint jobs (resto's) are, you'll never get to hear those "stories" after the paint has dried. I've always been in the rust "camp" too, and always will be.
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This thread is bringing back bad memories of what "could have been".....here is a pick of another nice original Titan that went up for auction last summer.
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Default Re: 1919 International Harvester Titan 10-20

Jeff,
Sometimes nothing will take care of that itch, until you scratch it!

A 10-20 Titan is high on my dream list of tractors, too....just too few $$$$ and too many projects to even THINK about one right now! Maybe someday....
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Here's another pair of very original Titans that we have. Both will be left as is in their work clothes. The original stencling is still intact on the frame and fenders of the 10-20. The 15-30 Titan, often called the flaming four, has a separate mixer for each of the 4 cylinders. I always wondered why the designers of the 15-30 Titan didn't combine the mixers like they did on the early 10-20's which were built about the same time, and have one mixer for both cylinders. I can't imagine some farmer buying and operating the 15-30 as their first tractor, as it takes a little knowledge of engines to recognize what's going on when one or more cylinders aren't adjusted correctly, and how to properly adjust them. I'm sure that contributed greatly to an early replacement of the 15-30's with a simpler tractor and the subsequent rarity of that model today.
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Wow, just love those nicely preserved machines!
I noticed that the steering wheels were treated to well oiled hands, however, the rest of these fine old pieces are left dry. So, going back to post #7, should we leave original survivors dry, or prep them with a preserving finish?
Some of the more serious chemical treatments that seal,and darken the appearance of the metal would be just as non-original as paint
I would value stakkers opinion on this subject.
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