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Replace Kohler K341 with a 16 HP Briggs in a 916 Allis


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Old 12-13-2009, 07:59:13 AM
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I have a 916 Allis with a blown engine.

The piston does not move, and I am able to turn the crank shaft by hand. If the engine is shot, can I replace the K341 with a 16 HP Briggs from a simplicity tractor?

Has anyone done this?

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Bill
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:13:48 AM
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Default Re: Replace Kohler K341 with a 16 HP Briggs in a 916 Allis

i dont know if that will work or not, but if it doesnt and if you want to sell the briggs i may be interested.
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Default Re: Replace Kohler K341 with a 16 HP Briggs in a 916 Allis

The K-341 is a very rebuildable engine. Turn the crank, bore the block for a good cylider wall. I have rebuilt several K-sries Kohler engines.

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Do you hae ant idea on how much it should cost? I have never done trhis before, so I will need to find some literature that describes the steps. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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I should have checked the spelling before I hit send on the last reply. I just got in from pulling the engine out of the tractor, and have a few bruised knuckles, and seem to now be hitting multiple keys.
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Pull the sump off, and check things out. If the rod is just blown, and the crank doesn't have scoring or groves on it, check various internal parts for any damage or metal, make sure the cylinder doesn't have any groves in it. If it all checks out, get all the broken bits of metal out, pop the piston out, and order up a new piston-rod assembly and call it a day.

When the Kohlers do finally blow, the usually don't cause catastrophic failure. Out of all the (relatively few) blown kohlers i've seen or heard of, probably at least 75% only needed a new piston and rod to be on their way again. The other 25% either needed other new internal parts, or blew a hole in the block.
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They sell kits on E-Bay with the piston, rings, and the piston rod for around $100. Is that all I need if nothing but the rod has been damaged?
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:52:01 PM
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Pretty much.
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Default Re: Replace Kohler K341 with a 16 HP Briggs in a 916 Allis

I guess I am different but I DO NOT USE KITS. I only use parts from the local Kohler dealer. Yes I know the price is much higher BUT many of the Kohler's I do are for customers. I DO NOT want the engine going down in a couple of years from SUB-STANDARD parts. A piston/ring assy is about $130, new style rod is about $60. It has studs instead of cap screws holding the rod cap on. Overhaul kit is about $60. This is all of the gaskets and seals. Around here it cost about $50 to have the crank turned. I charge $50 to bore the block. If block is already 30 over I know of a automotive machine shop that is VERY good at sleeving them back to Standard. This same shop, if the crankpin is already 10 under can weld the crankpin up and grind back to standard. They have very few problems doing this and it is MUCH cheaper than a new crank which is still available from Kohler.

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Default Re: Replace Kohler K341 with a 16 HP Briggs in a 916 Allis

The K341 is a gem and very hard to obtain. It is WORTH rebuilding. Do it right one time and it will last a lifetime with correct loading and care. 8HP engines never last because they are overworked in every application.
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