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Old 07-05-2016, 06:18:20 AM
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Default Re: Twin City 20-35 "Canadian"

Hadn't heard the term "skinner" before. Nice to know! In a related matter, when I was growing up around this stuff, folks in my area (Missouri at the time) called lever style load binders, "boomers". Years later, I moved to northwest Indiana. While on a tractor expedition, I asked a friend, an Indiana native, to hand me a boomer and he said, "a what??"
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Mark, the term I used for the cheater was a "snipe", not "skinner". That's what we called them when I worked in oilfield work. Although skinner might be appropriate at times, if you pull that thing down real hard and it gets away it can sometimes remove a little skin!!

The lever type load binder is a "boomer" in this area also.
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Boomer in Western Illinois too.
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boomer in western north dakota also
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Chain binder here at the truck shop.
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Mark, the term I used for the cheater was a "snipe", not "skinner".
Boy my memory is really getting bad! I needed to take a peek out the window to make sure I had actually hauled the right tractor home!

It was all chains, binders, and cheater pipes in my sphere of reference. Phil's snipe worked better than my pipe so when I got home I chucked my cheater pipe into the scrap bin and made myself one similar to Phil's. Does being south of the border make this a "cheater snipe"?

The Reynolds Museum was a little over a 1/2 hour from Camrose so we spotted the trailer in the motel parking lot and spent most of Saturday touring the Museum. I had wanted to see this Museum for long time. We got there plenty early and were the only ones in the parking lot for awhile.
Plenty of great displays and it was well worth the time spent to see them. Very well laid out. I would have liked to have seen their storage facility as there was plenty of old iron parked behind the gate. I inquired about it but was informed that limited tours of that facility wouldn't start until July.
So I had to be content to see what I could see through the fence.

Sat evening at the motel I got a phone call from an older fellow who wanted to sell a tractor. He had seen the Twin City parked in the lot and wanted to know if I was interested in buying an Oil Pull also. He didn't remember the model number. I was in no position to buy so I passed on it.

Here are a few photos taken at the Reynolds Museum.
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That '35 Maple Leaf is a nice truck. They were an up market Canadian version of a Chevrolet (which we also had). They had a lot more chrome trim, woodgrain dash board, and leather upholstery on the seat. I've had a couple in the past. Last one was a '35, same as the Reynold's truck. I sold it to Canada Dry in Toronto many years ago as they wanted it to restore as one of their pop bottle delivery trucks. Apparently they had a fleet of those Maple Leaf's back in the '30's.

Mine had a winch and gin poles and was pretty handy around the place for heavy lifts!
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Phil...Do you know if the Maple Leaf trucks were built that way by Chevrolet or were they customized by another outfit? My wife thought the Maple Leaf logo was very nicely done.

So when we got to the pickup early Sunday morning there was a note on the door asking if I would be interested in buying a Case "D" tractor! We pulled out of Camrose at 6:15 in the rain which was a good thing for the heavily loaded tires and a bad thing for the trailer as I lost 1/2 my marker lights not too far from Camrose. We headed across country on the secondary roads toward Moose Jaw. First fuel stop was at Kindersley. It was raining hard there and I pulled into a big COOP station that had a roof. There was no attendant on duty Sunday morning and we could not get the card to work. Was glad for the supply in the service tank! Drove in the rain until Elbow SK on good ol' Highway 19 which was one of the roughest stretches of blacktop I've been on in a long time...many miles driven in 4th gear. If ever a road would loosen a load this would be the one! Went through Moose Jaw and put the last of the service tank fuel in the Dodge at Yellow Grass. When we got to Estevan HWY 39 heads to Portal. We turned off 39 and headed for the Estevan Port of Entry which was on another stretch of 4th gear road because of the grade and curves. Almost no traffic on this stretch. The lady at the crossing took our Passports and checked them out. Then she asked for the bill of sale for the load. She looks it over and says "You paid that much for that thing?". So she looks at the load again and then says "Doesn't John already have one of these?" I said "Beg your pardon?" She asked me the same thing again and by this time I know she is probably talking about John Tysee Jr. I said "I'm not sure". From there the conversation shifted to " where are you from etc." Discovered that we were both from MN, that we both had brothers in Thief River Falls MN and both brothers had worked for Arctic Cat in the past. Small world! So after this 15 minute chat she hands my bill of sale back and says since the tractor is inoperable it's viewed as parts so you're good to go and have a nice evening. And go we went!

After crossing the border into the USA my clunky old Verizon flip phone started to work so I called a fellow Stakker that lived in the area for a motel recommendation. So we headed down the road to Crosby ND and got a good meal and spent the night at the "Guardian Inn". We were beat!

Some pictures of the last fuel stop in Yellow Grass SK.
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Mark, the Maple Leaf trucks were built by GM of Canada. They were a heavy duty Chevrolet truck and used some GMC components.
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Some or all of those Maple Leaf trucks were made in Canada at Oshawa Ontario
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What years were the Maple Leaf trucks available? I didn't even know such a truck existed until I saw the one at the Reynold's Museum.
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I don't know when they started, the last one my fathers store sold was a 1954 model 3 ton. I don't remember ever seeing one with the body style that came out in 1955 and later.
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First year for the Maple Leaf was 1930. That was the first one I had. Paid $50 for it in 1959 and drove it home after helping the owner remove the grain box and mount it on another truck!

Wish I still had that one.
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So can anyone who is interested in old tractors be in Crosby ND and not look up John Tysee Jr? The following morning we did just that. I secured John's phone # from a fellow Stakker and arranged to meet him at his shop. We toured the interesting projects in the shop, visited the magneto room (Wow...is there any he doesn't have?), and got acquainted with his 2 "shop" cats. In the chit chat that followed I found out that our paths had crossed back in 2004 at the Rynda Sale in Montgomery MN. We were bidding against each other on a 20hp Advance Rumely steamer. John had deeper pockets than I did so the engine ended up in Crosby after some repair work was done in Fargo. It was interesting to see the engine again after 12 years. The patina on the engine is much the same as when I saw it last. John has added the canopy, installed the proper stack, replaced the smokebox door and removed the built skid rings that were on it at the sale.

Nice work John. It went to a good home!

Here are a couple photos of the rig.
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Regarding the Maple Leaf trucks, I'm surprised King of Obsolete hasn't chimed in yet, as he has a '38 Maple Leaf in his "Black Fleet".
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Mark great story,

About that border cross of yours,
That must have been the same border where Henric was arrested for an coople hours an coople years ago with the Gopher coat,
They thought the coat was made from protected animal or full infilled with drugs,

Last spring they where across that same border,
Henric stopt and told he was on his way to John Tysee.
The border police start to laugh and told you can drive forwards with no checking anymore.
Looks they started to know us now.

Keep continude your wonderful story’s
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Chris...Glad to hear the second border crossing went better. The Estevan Port of Entry was recommended to me by others who have made a similar trip. It was obvious that the personnel here are familiar with loads of old iron crossing from time to time in and out of John Tysee's shop.

John volunteered to show us some of the tractors that he owned so he escorted us to the Pioneer Village in Crosby where the annual Divide County Threshing show is held. He allowed us access to 5 large storage sheds there that were stuffed with many large and rare gas tractors and gas engines. One of the tractors that particularly impressed me was the Big 4 "45". How the operators ever saw where they were driving and how they got it maneuvered with that small steering wheel is beyond me. They must of had access to some kind of prehistoric GPS. The build date on the "45" is 1913 which I found interesting because that is also when the Twin City "60" became available. I mentioned this to John and he said between those two tractors the TC "60" was a better built tractor than the "45"was as it was basically a stretched Big 4 "30" with a 6 cylinder motor installed. He would know if anyone would!

Big 4 "45" photo op.
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Since the 47th Annual Divide County Threshing Show in Crosby ND is this coming weekend (July 15-16-17) I thought I'd devote one more post to some of John's rarer pieces. If you like old iron and can swing the trip this would be the place to hang out this weekend!

1. John has a good sized collection of platform plows. This 8 bottom Rumely gang plow is the first platform plow I've seen with slat bottoms.

2. 30hp Robert Bell Plowing engine. Check out the traction gearing on this one when you get a chance. Nearly all of it is mounted independent of the boiler. Super heavy duty!

3. Fairbanks-Morse 30-60. 1 of 3 known to exist.

4. Imperial 40-70. 1 of 3 known to exist.
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henry olson said you may be able to help me .I have a 27-44 twin city,I would like some pics of carb and magneto as I do not have either at this time. John Vetter 320-734-4441
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Hi John
Welcome to the Stak! You should be able to learn what you want to know here as there is some very knowledgeable Twin City fellas here on the board. I certainly don't know everything there is to know about the Twin City line but I'd be willing to share what I have.

The tractor that these parts pictures come from is a 20-35 serial number 3406. It is the 206th one built and probably was assembled in late 1921-early 1922. While the 20-35 and 27-44 are basically the same tractor there are a few small differences between the early and the late models.

This tractor has the 2nd design Hotspot manifold installed and this is the carb that was on it. It is a Wheeler-Schebler Model A. I'm pretty sure this carb was on the 27-44's also but I can't verify the late production usage as my parts book doesn't go new enough.

We would be interested in the serial number on your tractor as well as pictures if you can figure out how to post them. I know it took me a while to learn.
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