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Minneapolis Moline U. Love em, Hate em? Got Stories Or Pictures Of Yours ?


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Both UTS's are 1947 models which was one of the highest production years. Not MM steel at all. Front axle has been changed to make wheels fit. MM U had tierod out front in those years. MM rear steel bolted to existing cast center. Two sizes of steel were used. 36-38 inch hubs and 32 on earlier models. Wheels pictured are too wide that is why fenders are removed. The cast splined centers have been removed and full wheels applied. Maybe Ford? By 1947 steel wheels were obsolete.
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Well this thread has gotten me into seriously thinking about getting a U. So I got on the computer and found 2 of them although I'm leery of the one that days needs a head gasket. Other one is decent with a Schwartz wide front Obama engineered under it,price is reasonable,although have to put a narrow front back under it. My favorite used equipment dealer has 3 back in the parts yard,2 of the split block Us and 1 with the 1 pc blockhead. The 1 split block U is only missing both rear wheels and the carbon,motor stuck but the exhaust is covered. How hard is it to find motor parts for one of these as I don't mind a project.
Hey super,
Lots of engine parts are available for the mighty Mr. U.
Also salvage yards, swap meets and some of the MM faithful has plenty of U goodies to pick from.
Call around to some of the MM camp and check Craigs List and auctions too.
There are some good deals popping up here and there for running machines that you can personalize and will save you money and resto time.
Good luck!
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Thanks Tony,
As said,got my eye on one on the computer that other than the rigged up frontend looks decent and only asking $1500. Never seen someone put a wide front on a tractor and still have the narrow front pedestal hanging down under it. Looks like they took the spindles off the nf and attached a bellcrank for the tierod ends to bolt to. Figured if its still there when I get money back from Uncle Sam that if it pans out it will be coming here,although momma might not be happy for awhile. But that's not the first time that's happened either.

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Forgot to mention that seller lists it as a 1948 model so that should make the motor a split block right?Heard that those are the good motors to have.
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:28:26 PM
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Well this thread has gotten me into seriously thinking about getting a U. So I got on the computer and found 2 of them although I'm leery of the one that days needs a head gasket. Other one is decent with a Schwartz wide front Obama engineered under it,price is reasonable,although have to put a narrow front back under it. My favorite used equipment dealer has 3 back in the parts yard,2 of the split block Us and 1 with the 1 pc blockhead. The 1 split block U is only missing both rear wheels and the carbon,motor stuck but the exhaust is covered. How hard is it to find motor parts for one of these as I don't mind a project.
The single block U's are early production models and do have some internal differences from the more plentiful later split block counterparts. The bottom end is where most of the design changes occured. The single block U's have babbited mains and rods and even have different diameter journals I believe? There may be slight differences in the top end as well (wrist pins, rocker arms and valve stem diameter). Depending on how much motor work you get into, the entire top end can be converted to accept the later model parts. I have a KTA but it is equipped with U valves, rocker arm assebly, etc.
Findind a decent one piece head can be tricky. If yours is cracked, most of what you will find will be in the same condition. A refurbished head will cost you.
I would not let this deter you. The single block U's are definitely on the rarer side.
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Solid block U's were only babbitted until mid 1940 in KEC motor. The following KEF motor until 1947 had precision bearings. Basically all internal parts are interchangeable.
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Forgot to mention that seller lists it as a 1948 model so that should make the motor a split block right?Heard that those are the good motors to have
Super,
That is correct, mid-47 and newer had split block and heads.
As many will say "any U is a good U".
Really nice ones are selling stupid cheap these days and some patience can net you a good looking, driving machine that can be re-sold for what you paid if mama freaks out...in the meantime you get to enjoy it

MM hit a home run with the U.
This rugged machine enjoyed a 20 year production run and was available in several configurations from many common to some rather rare as well.
The UB's from 53-55 had high center seating and steering with a foot clutch.
Personally I like being low to the ground with the common swing-to-the-side seat and hand clutch models.
I also feel the row crop U is more attractive than the standards. I have sold much of my collection recently, but refuse to sell my 52 LP standard as it is absolutely one of the best running, hardest pulling tractors (of any color) that I have ever owned!
In 1938 the U tested 31-42hp. on gas.
In 1954 the high comp LP put up 36-50hp with the same old 283ci.
Low on price, but high on pride. Here are pic's of mine.
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A couple more pictures. 1940 UTS on rear steel. 1955 UB diesel Special.









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Heads up guys.
Stumbled across an add on the Fort Wayne Ind.farm and garden site on Craigslist. Guy has 3 MM GVI diesels,3 6cyl power units,1 each LP,gas,and diesel,also says he has U and G tractors and parts available. No prices listed which suck. Thought I'd put this up here if it can help anybody here. Got pics of the GVIs, the power units,and some of the parts.
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Here is a picture of my U. I think if I clean the fuel system, it will run. I gave about $400 for it a local farm sale. I think it is about a 51 or 52 yr.
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1953 had smooth hood sides. 1952 had ribbed fenders. Pre 52 used the old smooth clamshell ones. Mid 52 was an update year for the U. Flywheel was different as well as starter. Extra tooth in bendix and more in ring gear. Setup for change to get ready for 12v system in 53. Also in 53 MM went to pressurized cooling system thus creating rad changeup and hood change for overflo Later U's are harder to find. This is when rearend was changed. Disc brakes replaced the old drum style. Shifter could be removed by 4 bolts rather than removing whole transmission top. UB models are common in US and rare in Canada. UB's weren't made as a standard tractor.
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Molinegb, what year do you think my U could be? I can't read the ser# very well.
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Up to 1947 6 digit serial number. 1948 starts 0248 and 49 starts with 0249 and 1250 for 1950.all with 10 digits. In 51 MM used 8 digits. Is there a motor serial? I can cross. Most likely a 1948 or 49 as MM peak years of U production.
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The ser# that I can read is U 0120????. My book shows the UT that starts with 0120000. I'll check the engine and see if it has a ser#. The Ser# on the engine is 01923707.

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By motor number tractor is close to mid production in 1952. Just before changes.
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Gary, Tony and everbody.

I went thru my thanks everyday with other threads on Smokstak but do follow this everytime.

Great thread with great pictures and great story.


When we picked up one of our Minnie Mo’s then this song was on the radio.

No better music towards this tractor make then this song.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jzq246LcCU


I woult say let the story’s and pictures further role in.

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Thanks, Tony, for a great thread!

Just dragged this mid-50s U special (gas) out of the shed to work on it soon. My understanding is that this was the only tractor my grandfather ever purchased new. There were plenty of used ones along the way, of which a good number were MM or TC. At some point this got rebored for oversized pistons, which gave it plenty of power but made it a gas hog, from what I hear. It was replaced as a chore tractor by a Case 500 diesel which is still going strong.

This U hasn't run since the 1970s but was running fine when parked. Hopefully it won't take too much to get it going again. The little guy is eager for a ride!
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U gas Special only made in 1956. Around 1200 made. U's normally weren't overly hard on fuel. A G gas working would drink 45 gallons a day. That's only 4 gallons a hour on a long day.
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May have some more leads on a U. Was talking with one of the guys at work who's looking for a later MM for a chore tractor,was telling him about a M670 that had been overhauled with a G crank and propane heads for sale on the computer and was telling him I was looking for a U. He told me he knew some guys that may have one for sale,so we'll see. Meanwhile being I was at my favorite used equipment dealers today,I took some pics of the 3 Us out back. Hopefully the pics I took of the serial#s turns out
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And a few more. All seem to be TUTus. Lastone looks to be a late one,ribbed fenders and different brakes. Second one is the one with the one pc block/head.
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Here we go
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