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Old 06-01-2018, 03:59:13 PM
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Russ this is a FTA Twin City. Gear noise and the ringing of the center plate is normal! When you are plowing that ringing goes away. I can't guess the hundreds of hours I have set on the tool box riding on the 21-32 as a child and the hundreds of hours running one pulling a 3-16 Moline plow. Those sounds you are wanting to get rid of are normal and music to me.


You are making me want to get me a rusty old beater just to run in the field again.
Well Ed, you need to bring uncles' 21-32 to Goessel this year, feature is M&M.
That way Ron J could paw over it some while he's there.
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Russ my days of hauling to shows is over. I hauled a lot of iron up to Goessel and back over the years, 14-28 Avery, 27-44 Twin City, 21-32 Twin City, 16-30 Oil Pull, All have been there several times.
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Russ my days of hauling to shows is over. I hauled a lot of iron up to Goessel and back over the years, 14-28 Avery, 27-44 Twin City, 21-32 Twin City, 16-30 Oil Pull, All have been there several times.
I remember an Avery cultivator tractor also. Come on up anyhow, Farm work permitting.
And thanks for those years of bringing stuff up to the show, I know sometimes that doesn't
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I drove this tractor around some this weekend, pretty sure it has higher speed gears as mentioned earlier in the thread, but I don't think group 4 or 5. To be sure I would have to calculate it, I suppose stopwatch and circumference would do. Mark a spot on the wheel, maybe.
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Well, the several times I have ran it since the last post, it is getting noticeably less smoke out of the exhaust, better compression.
With all the speculating I have been doing since i bought it from simple oil change to needing a ring job i think i have an idea of what might have happened.
The oil change has always made me think that had something to do with it, although i didn't run it a real long time before that im real sure i didn't have any smoke until after and it was pretty immediate. Some have told me that the detergent oil cleaned up some long present gunk and such, i'm pretty convinced on that. After i changed a week later to non detergent oil, i'm starting to see some real good results, but that may just be because i got rid of most of the thin black old whatever was in the engine with the second change.
I also think this is kind of new to me because most all of the tractors i have put back into service got thoroughly cleaned out during the rebuild, then we would have less old oil residue to deal with, i don't really know. Maybe that's why detergent oil has always worked for me before, i started out with a clean oil system.
Anyway, an elderly tractor collector friend told me years ago to only use non-detergent oil on these old tractors. I have heard that from others, and i have heard the other side also, as in that these older engines don't know the difference in oil. I think that depending on the particular situation...…….they are both right.
Started it last night twice, we knew it was going to need a cleanout on the fuel tank, and it quit both times because of that so i took the tank off last night. Before it died it REALLY sounded good, looking forward to working this ol tractor some in the near future.
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Russ, I've always been taught to use non detergent oi in old tractors because of the accumulation of dirt and grimr left in the pores of the engine from yrs of use with non detergent oil. Better safe than sorry I've been told.
When you finish cleaning the fuel tank, I don't know if someone in your area handles parts from Steiners but they sell a nifty screen that fits into the top of the sediment bowl that with help stop fine particles coming from the tank. Makes you think of the pipe sticking up on the original sediment bowl assy used on McCormick Deerings, well worth the 8.50 in my book, has saved me a lot off problems. Just a suggestion, Jim
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Got the gas tank back on and needed to shine up a plow for the KTA this summer, smoke was noticeably less. It still ran some oil down the side of the block seeping out the number four exhaust port at first, then later the second time I ploughed it didn't run down at all.
Pulled a 2-14" IH plow in first, which would be second gear for the standard geared tractors, ploughed deep and fast, it would pull that load at idle without lugging.
Anyway, at near 100 degrees yesterday I didn't want to burn it down to the ground, seems to be a pretty good runner as is. Need to replace kingpins and bushing pretty badly, front wheel camber is lookin sad.
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So now I guess the ol FTA is the official plow scouring unit at our place, yesterday the boys came over and we decided to shine up and grease some plows we hadn't used in a long time. First off was an IH 2-14, did a fine job as usual. Pictured is a 2-14 Allis, it seemed like it did fine but didn't lay over as smooth as the IH. Then we finished the day with an IH 1-18, seemed like that plow pulled a little harder than the 2-14's, we may knock that one down to a 1-14 one of these days, always tried to side draft but it could also be that the ol FTA was too fast for it.
Tonight we may have to break out the KTA and turn some dirt, see how it manages.
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I can't figure out how to put a youtube video on, my son took one the other day, "plowing with a 1935 twin city fta."
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Just curious, I took apart the front axle last night and had guessed that kingpin bushings would be something to have to machine, there isn't a truck kit that fits by any chance?
I have a friend checking to see if he has a good axle, otherwise i'm going to have to weld up and machine out the ends, the kingpins are actually loose in the axle and worn at an angle.
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A friend came up with another axle, an earlier beam I believe. Otherwise, the front axle is completely apart, I should have kingpin bushings tomorrow and need to decide which way to go.
The tie rod ends are also some kind of hammered and need bushed.
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Got the axle ends rebuilt, got some bushings in, machined on the lathe and pressed into the spindles. A friend gave me these honing kits, "precision hone" company, I don't know how old it is but it actually works pretty well for honing out the kingpin bushings, it would sure be a lot faster with a ream but I don't have anything in that area to use besides one too large and several too small. I think by what little instructions the kit had that this is designed to hone out piston pin holes, maybe wrist pin bushings. Anyway, at work this noon I found that my air drill makes it go a lot quicker than my electric drill at home. Also used sleeve locktite product to insure they wouldn't turn in the bore.
I also had this old sunnex hone lying around and thought about making it do some work, but the belt broke. I think it is actually a rod hone without the stand, I have a whole slew of stones and attachments for it and never have used it since I bought it many years ago.
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Before we finished plowing I noticed the oil pressure had dropped to 15 psi, so I shut it down for the front axle rebuild and bought some more oil and a filter. Sure enough, the oil was black and thin again, and after removing the filter I found it to be collapsed. Fresh oil, left the new filter out, pressure is back up to 30psi.
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Anyway, the detergent oil episode has made for a great story. When I told Jerry about it this morning he said;
"You gave it a detergent oil enema."
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Threshing with the FTA.
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Last summer we ploughed and threshed with the FTA, towards the end of ploughing it was popping out of gear now and then, towards the end of threshing the clutch was disengaging. We were having a plough day this Saturday so I looked into these problems Saturday afternoon. (ends up now with the rains we may not plough for a long while) The owner said when I bought it I may need to replace a pin in the shift fork selector, and he was right. This one had a bolt in it and all that I found was the upper half and a broken piece in the shaft, this made it partially go into gear but not completely. I installed a bolt with the head half flat from the bottom, drilled a hole in both ends for a safety wire just in case my repair broke like previous.
While I had it open the clutch release casting was badly worn on the ends so I brazed it back up and welded some on the pivot forks, snaps in and out good now, we shall see.
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