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Twin-City 17-28 (1928)


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Old 11-10-2018, 09:45:38 PM
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The front axle and reach are from a newer 21-32. I do have a correct axle here if you would like to switch it.
thanks jim i will definitely keep that in mind when i get to this project.
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Small update.......PM me if you are interested.
Ill be putting the twist in them tomorrow.
NorsemanIronWorks first prototype cleat set.
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Moline,
Earlier in this thread it was said that this tractor has really been around. It lived in Se MN years ago, then went to Mo. and back to MN, then WI, and back to MN again before reaching Chris and yourself.
2011 on back of Antique Power and a large "four season" centerfold pictorial in Prairie Gold Rush April 2015.
I strategically planted this machine in my garden for an entire year taking many photos to get that centerfold completed. Those pictures and more appear in this thread...

https://www.smokstak.com/forum/showt...=121506&page=5

Page 5, post 50...Page 6, post 57,58,60 and page 7, post 61, 62.

Will be watching thread with interest, thanks for posting!
Tony
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Are they tempered? Ones on my 12-20 are tough.
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Old 12-29-2018, 06:43:16 PM
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Here are the originals on my 1919 12-20. They were very tough to straighten!! Had to make 5 new ones to complete the set.
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Are they tempered? Ones on my 12-20 are tough.
no these are not but maybe soon. still in the prototype Phase.

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Moline,
Earlier in this thread it was said that this tractor has really been around. It lived in Se MN years ago, then went to Mo. and back to MN, then WI, and back to MN again before reaching Chris and yourself.
2011 on back of Antique Power and a large "four season" centerfold pictorial in Prairie Gold Rush April 2015.
I strategically planted this machine in my garden for an entire year taking many photos to get that centerfold completed. Those pictures and more appear in this thread...

https://www.smokstak.com/forum/showt...=121506&page=5

Page 5, post 50...Page 6, post 57,58,60 and page 7, post 61, 62.

Will be watching thread with interest, thanks for posting!
Tony
thanks for sharing tony, it seems this tractor has moved around A LOT. But i think its found its forever home where hopefully i can put it back to work a little.
-Randy
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Knowledgeable people here with great advise and help....but in my opinion I would not worry about temper or hardening. How many hours do we really run these old machines? You will never wear those mild steel angles enough to look bad. I am betting it will be several years from now before they even begin to take on a normally worn appearance.
You are doing a fine job. Get it running and smile!
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I have to agree with Tony on this yet understand the questions.
I wonder how long it would take me to wear out a prototype set of your angle iron cleats...
So they'd look half worn out and still cut my yard/woods/driveway to ribbons!
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Spring is close, i got the bug to work on the TC a little bit. started by taking the bad belt pulley and fenders off for now. I have a question for you TC guys. The oiler that is located on the rear end under the back of the fuel tank, whats that oil? also pulled the valve cover off and saw some of what i think Tony did as far as making sure nothing is stuck or broken. looks like im going to have a lot of work ahead of me but i WILL put 25859 back to work.
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The transmission on your tractor is only self oiling when the tractor is moving. When the clutch is engaged with the transmission in neutral for belt pulley work the primary bevel gear set that drives it is above the oil level...high and dry so to speak...and there is no splash lube to oil them. The oiler on the transmission is provided to drip oil on the bevel gears when operating in the belt pulley mode. Also grease cups are provided on the ends of the belt pulley shaft with another on the input shaft for the same reason.

When operating in the belt for extended periods of time these cups and oiler need regular attention.
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The transmission on your tractor is only self oiling when the tractor is moving. When the clutch is engaged with the transmission in neutral for belt pulley work the primary bevel gear set that drives it is above the oil level...high and dry so to speak...and there is no splash lube to oil them. The oiler on the transmission is provided to drip oil on the bevel gears when operating in the belt pulley mode. Also grease cups are provided on the ends of the belt pulley shaft with another on the input shaft for the same reason.

When operating in the belt for extended periods of time these cups and oiler need regular attention.
oh ok thanks Mark
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If I dare say, perhaps pull the fuel tank and saddle to be sure the oil drip tube is pointed where you want it on the bevel gears.
I had an errant (way out of place) oil tube on the 21-32 in my yard that needed re-positioning and locking down to put the oil where it should go on the bevels. Any sort of luck and the 17-28 oil tubes stayed put where they were set 90 years ago at the factory downtown.
So glad you're finding some time to work on that sweety.
If you look inside, perhaps a look at the input shaft bearing to see how loose it is... ?
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If I dare say, perhaps pull the fuel tank and saddle to be sure the oil drip tube is pointed where you want it on the bevel gears.
I had an errant (way out of place) oil tube on the 21-32 in my yard that needed re-positioning and locking down to put the oil where it should go on the bevels. Any sort of luck and the 17-28 oil tubes stayed put where they were set 90 years ago at the factory downtown.
So glad you're finding some time to work on that sweety.
If you look inside, perhaps a look at the input shaft bearing to see how loose it is... ?
Definately going to have problems with all the bearings and gears inside this tractor, every shaft that i have checked all move up and down and side to side. i might be machining out all bearing caps for newer roller bearings.
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Oof, a bazillion hours 17-28, like the 21-32 here?
I don't even wanna think about the 17-28's in the yard. They're fine...
The 21-32 is on Timken's, you're on Hyatt's... Remember, those twisted up Hyatt's are flexible. True.
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