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Greyhound Thresherman's Special Gas Tractor


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I have only one photo of a cut off wheels Greyhound tractor. I ran out of film. It was taken at the time of auction in Ohio some years ago. It went to the new owner in Pennsylvania. This tractor is one of latest production before The Banting Machine Company tractor came out. The water pump is different from the older Greyhound.

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Surely, apart from the radiator header tank, that tractor must be identical to the last Allis Chalmers 5 1/4" bore 25-40 (30-60) Thresherman's Specials?

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Surely, apart from the radiator header tank, that tractor must be identical to the last Allis Chalmers 5 1/4" bore 25-40 (30-60) Thresherman's Specials?

Tricky Dickie
The Banting Machine Company 30-60 Thresherman's Special tractor has a over sized piston of a 25-40 E, factory cab and heavy weight road wheels. I have no luck find a original literature on Banting Machine tractor. However If i do find one for my museum collection.It may prove it the information. I may post this forum and reprint quality fold out color copies.
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Here are the side-by-side pics of 1930 Allis Chalmers 25-40 and 1929 Greyhound Thresherman's Special.
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Here are pics of Dudley Diebold's 1929 Greyhound Thresherman's Special and 1928 Allis Chalmers 20-35.
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Your Greyhound is originally sold new in Michigan just north of South Bend Indiana. More info will be updated from my file.
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I have plowed (ploughed) my thank you button under again.
Fabulous thread, very informative!
The Stakkers here on this forum convinced me that this Allis model was a very good one. I have finally secured a 1927 E for current project. After tearing into it there is no doubt...they are a brilliant design!
Thank you for wonderful information here on these great old machines
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Hello!
Found a model e Allis has been inside in storage engine is loose & complete. Its on steel with extension rims. rough idea how much is it worth?
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There's one in Alpena, MI also in case you don't have it. Owned by Dick Bloom for many years. Nice running tractor that's typically the local show in Alpena every year.
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Bump! Another Greyhound tractor known exist. I was there at Mount Pleasant, Michigan October 11th Aumann Auctions. This tractor needs a lot of work to free engine, metal fabricating. Its all there except missing cut off cab, kill switch n dash, gas tube gauge(rear gas tank on dash) and Kingston carburetor. I do have all drawings, dimensions, parts locations and where to take parts to does the best original restoration. The rear wheels are factory optional 1000 lbs each road wheel weight with road cast cleats. Cleats are not worn out like new.
Photos attached here. This Greyhound was sold to a new owner in Michigan.








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I wondered where it would go! Fabulous to see it stayed in the state.
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Where did it go?
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Stayed in the family, the grandson bought it for his wife. Jim
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Looked like a good sale. Glad to see it stayed in the family!
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I own the Greyhound from the New York Museum,the number stamped on the block is 43768.I am curious if it is a Greyhound,or just has the radiator tank.Any info would be appreciated.
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Default Re: Greyhound Thresherman's Special gas tractor

Maybe I'm in the dark here, but wasn't all gas Greyhound units simply a dressed up Allis E? I know that CC Banting was directly involved with Allis after they quit building their steam units and sourced the E from Allis to convert to their Greyhound Special. I would assume the base stamping numbers were from Allis and the SN tag would be applied by Banting. He was the largest supplier of Allis equipment in Ohio but Allis always had fits trying to keep the accounts and inventory books straight with CC. As far as I've heard this lasted as long as CC lasted.
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My name is Suzie Carroll and we purchased the Greyhound that was sold in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan on October 11, 2014. We are excited to keep this piece of agriculture history in the family. We live about 35 miles southeast of Mt. Pleasant and we will be moving the tractor to it's new home this weekend. We bought the tractor from my husband's grandfather's estate. I have been to the Wauseon show, Buckley, Sycamore and Old Gas and always looked for a Greyhound but haven't seen one. The Greyhound has always peaked my interest as they seemed rare. It's going to be a project for us but it is a project that we can enjoy as a family.
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I own the Greyhound from the New York Museum,the number stamped on the block is 43768.
43768 is a machining block number not serial number. Is your block part number AM 11-53-21? There are four block mold numbers mixed in assembly line like Am 11-53-13 etc...
Your tractor serial number is found stamped numbers ahead on right of gear shift quadrant. You can try rub off grease or rust to see five number stamped serial number.
Let me know and I can tell you what year it is.
Also How wide is fender? Is fender 20 inch flat or two ribs smaller fender? Any photo would appreciate it.

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Is it Tired Iron Museum?

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Craig, did Banting add their own Serial Number / plate or did they just leave them as Allis numbered them? I never had a opportunity to closely examine one, but trying to learn a bit.
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did Banting add their own Serial Number / plate or did they just leave them as Allis numbered them?
Leave them as Allis numbered. I have discovered and met a older man who remembered the french gentleman owned the machine shop near Banting Mfg plant. There were Allis Chalmers delivered out to machine shop rebuilding into Thresherman's Special.

1. Wide road wheel weight 20 inch road cast or angle cleats( Made by French and Hecht Co.)
2. over size bore standard 5 inch
3. 4 inch taller radiator casting tank more water required for larger bore without over heating.
4. Banting own fabricated arm rest fenders and canopy
5. Exhaust chime whistle and lightings
6. Sold new with all options 2475.00 1928-29 that's twice the amount over standard E Allis for 1200.00

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Suzie Carroll and we purchased the Greyhound that was sold in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan
It was nice meeting both of you at the auction. I was at auction just 1/2 hour before the Greyhound sold. Your serial number is 18312 model 22-42 built in mid 1929.

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