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Old 05-09-2011, 08:45:04 PM
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I want to buy an 1984 around that year only want a 21 or 22 foot unit. I don't want to have to repair it every time i want to use it . Most sell for $3000 to $6000 are these just junk only want to travel 4-5 shows a year at most 500 miles round trip. i believe you get what you pay for but I can't afford the newer ones 10 grand and up!! Also I know nothing about them and for obvious reasons I trust few people selling anything.Going to tow trailer too.

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Default Re: I want an old class C motor home

GOOD LUCK!

Don't expect to pull much of a trailer with a Class C - been there and tried that - really crappy hitch. Motor homes break daily, no matter how much you fix them or how new they are.

A better deal might be a good healthy pickup truck with a camper insert and a beefy trailer hitch.
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You know i was going this route a while back and decided the best thing to do was buy an enclosed trailer and pull it with my truck. You can make the inside into what ever things you need, and store the stuff to the show also. When you get there just kick it all out and setup the inside for camping mode. Cheaper than the motel, and my truck might even get better milage than the camper. We even have a full sized shower set in the trailer using a 15gl electric spayer unit and solar heating for the water, lasts two of us a week at the show. No potty as most shows have good enough ones on the grounds. Theres a coleman stove if i want coffee, tables and benchs that fold down off the walls and make beds that i put an air mattress on the benchs. I use LED lights wired to a couple of batteries inside. Been thinking on a 1000 watt gen so could have a fan and recharge the batt's. The best parts is its water tight, has windows for light and venting, and when i get home i dont have to unload or can just store the tractors and other stuff until next yrs run. This is a whole lot cheaper for me than a motor home and the plates only cost $20 a yr with no extra engine to feed. I used to pull an 18' flat trailer with an apache pop up loaded on the back, but it got to be a pain to load and setup plus it took up space on the bed i could have used to bring other toys along.


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Jeff post a few pics of your set up when you get a chance if you don't mind. Many have told me to look into what they call a toy hauler trailer it has living set up in front there large and very pricey. I think you have a real good idea here. My pick up is an 2004 only 56000 miles on it has heavy duty suspension but small power V6 . Still would be cheaper in long run your way. Just want to do few shows with 6 year old helper grand daughter . If you go back to my 7 HP briggs post you'll see her. Want to enjoy her at shows before she discovers boys are as much fun as old engines !!!
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Go for something about 1987 and up-get fuel injection. TONS less problems, and you can still get good parts for any fuel injected domestic truck. You CAN get a good hitch on a class C, my motorhome has a nice one, but it's definantely a major peice of structure-has to be. Most class C motorhomes, the frame quits about 3-6 feet from the tail, so you need a lot of well thought out iron underneath to bridge the gap. My 24 foot with a 2 horse trailer loaded, all came out within the GAWR and GCWR. Cooling is a HUGE issue in a class C, there is little space for airflow in a van. I wish class C motorhomes were more commonly made on truck cab-n-chassis. More roomy under the hood, easier to make it 4wd, etc etc.

Mine ran like a scalded dog till 500 bucks of rebuild head dropped a valve and trashed the whole engine. Be carefull of thinking a motorhome is 'low miles'-they are the most severe and excrusiating of miles in about any vehicle made.

I would bet any class C gets 6-7 MPG, so keep that in mind. 50-75 cents a mile in gas pays for a nice hotel room!!

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Thanks Robert. I just wanted to make it more fun for the grand childeren but at 6 years old we sleep in a little pop up tent she has a ball we cook on the grill. i was just thinking of getting a cap for the pickup and sleep in there . You don't have to be fancy for engine shows . Seems what I want to do has a lot of issues in it. Bottom line you get what you pay for and sometimes less !!

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Default Re: I want an old class C motor home

I did the same thing that Jeff did, I converted an enclosed trailer to a toy hauler. I dont use a camper very often and I thought if I buy one thats all it will ever be good for is a camper. The enclosed trailer can be used to haul any time, or store stuff in.
I did not want something too big, I went with a 13' single axle with a side walk in door, and ramp door on the back. Perfect size for some toys or my motorcycle.
I put in a fold down bed on the wall, and few old kitchen cabinets and counter top in the front. I put in a small bar sink, 12 volt lights with a deep cycle battery mounted on the tongue, a few 110 volt lights and recepticles, a microwave and roof top A/C.
I got some windows I was going to put in but then got thinking on a camper you have it keep them covered with curtains all the time, and so far I have always had a spot with electric to run the A/C so I left the windows out. Then no one knows what is inside.
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Problem with a Class C motor home is most have too much overhang they aren't good for pulling a trailer and an old Gas one is going to be a Gas Guzzler.

This is what I have, Well almost as the different camper now has a shower and AC and the trailer has fold up ramps and is 2 feet shorter. I did add a set of Timbrens this spring to counteract the weight of the trailer. The truck is a 1996 Dodge Cummins 4X4 5 Speed from New Mexico. Zero Rust and gets 15 to 17.6 Mpg with just the camper and 12 to 13 with the trailer, camper and a 12 HP Gas engine.

I put over 5000 miles on this rig last summer partly with the trailer and partly without. No Repairs, just one oil change.

I had thought of a toy hauler but the toys go in the rear and Heavy Iron weighs Lots more than Dirtbikes or ATV's. Makes for Unpleasant driving.

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Nice set up Ken !

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Well I found this pick up cap on craigs list here in Vermont. Paid $500.00 for it he wanted $600.00. >ut I had to travel 184 miles one way so he dropped price down . Used about 30 bucks of gas I'm going to put some lighting in it and air mattress and what ever I want in the pickup bed. I think with the new 16 foot trailer I 'm getting this will work out for me fine. Better than the tent were using now. I wanted a class C motor home but just can't afford to buy decent one and the gas would be outrageous . I hope this will work out. I know my 6 year old granddaughter who goes to the shows already wants to sleep in it here in the yard.

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Default Re: I want an old class C motor home

Thats a good looking truck cap Ronny. Your right that beats a tent. My friend set one up with a sheet of plywood as a platform for the bed raised up off the floor so he could slide suit cases and stuff under it.

Here are some pictures of my trailer converted to camper.

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Here are a couple more pictures.

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Steve how do you run your lights ? I want some kind of lighting in cap . Would like some kind of fold down cott on each side.

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Default Re: I want an old class C motor home

Tap lights with LED's would be quick, easy, and cheap

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If you want to add a DC fridge to keep snacks cold (and not soggy) consider adding a second battery that gets charged anytime engine is running, yet disconnects from main battery when engine is not running, that way when you wake up your first need is not a jumpstart
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My experience on RV fridges....

1, you need to make them DEAD LEVEL or they won't work right. Going down the road is OK, but in camp, it's gotta be pretty close or it dies.

2, they will run a HUGE 12v battery bank down in no time flat. But will run on a small LP tank for months. I wouldn't spend the extra $ on the 12v option. Mine in my 77 motorhome had the self relight feature, and it would run going down the freeway no problem on LP. It ran on 120v when I could plug in.

The fridge was one of the things that made the RV fun to have

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I just do it old way a cooler ice is free I make it in my ice maker and put it in a bag few weeks before show . it lasts 4 days .

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It is all a compromise with what you want to do. Honestly, the cheapest solution by far is to stay in a hotel. But I like to stay on the showgrounds, my other hobbies aren't usually near a hotel, and I am just more comfortable in my own camper.
My compromise is a 9 1/2' pickup camper. These larger campers weigh 3500-4000 lbs, so they take a big truck to haul them. It also takes a good aftermarket hitch to pull anything more than a boat. I run a 2 1/2" receiver and a 18" extension on the hitch, since my trailers are around 8000 lbs loaded.

Best things about the camper that makes it better than a tent - comfortable queen size bed, large refrigerator that auto-lights, water heater, furnace, and a shower.
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Do you use the battery under the hood for the LED lights. Where do you get them.

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Well doing what it does best here raining like heck. My truck cap is leaking under where it sits on the bed sides. I put a piece of rubber material under for a kinda gasket. Going to have to silicone it around inside . Hope I don't have to take it off but only way to seal it It didn't fit perfect but I can seal it up. One little leak around 2 window gaskets .

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Nice rig I like the enclosed trl.

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Next trl hitch and enclosed 16 foot trl. By the way what size trl hitch i plan to pull a 6000 lbs capacity trl not that I will ever pull that much. Wheres good place to get hitch and not pay through the nose but also get quality.

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I've replaced most of the bulbs in my camper with LED's. I did put a Green Knob switch on one truck battery so I can disconnect it if I sit on one place for a while so I don't get caught with my Pants down. With the small AGM I have in the camper and one AGM battery in the truck I have set in one place for 3 days running TV, Lights, Furnace if needed, Fantastic Fan, Computer and haven't had any problem yet. With one live group 27 battery the Cummins will start on one compression stroke.

It seems half the Fun of going to shows happens after most people would go to the Motel. I take a small grill along and stock the Fridge so Food or Refreshments isn't a problem. Sometimes the BS gets pretty Deep after supper.

For me a truck camper is Great as I can go with my choice of enclosed or open trailer or with nothing behind if I am just Bumming. The 4X4 has came in handy a few times if it does Rain.

I tried the Motel thing Nothing Sleeps like your own Bed.
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I don't have a camper I just bought the used cap going to try and make it as comfortable as far as sleeping and maybe small tv for my 6 year old grand daughter . last 3 years we been in small tent we had fun in that . Going to try and put a cott on each side over wheel hump or maybe just air mattresses in middle . She's in hurry to just sleep in it .

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Ken what kind of small grill you got I want small that operates on propane tank .

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