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Strange Distribuor - F162


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Old 06-24-2018, 03:46:30 AM
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Default Strange Distribuor - F162

Hi

I have a F162 Continental in a old Towmotor. All the engines i have seen have the distributor coming out the top. Mine has it coming out of this belt driven accessory.
What is this thing called and how does it maintain timing with belt slip etc? What lubricant do i put in the cap?
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Default Re: Strange Distribuor - F162

its a timing belt
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Old 06-24-2018, 09:00:35 AM
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Default Re: Strange Distribuor - F162

I think there is a gear inside the casting between the V belt pulley and the twist off cap that keeps the distributor in time. The gear also drives the belt pulley. You couldn't keep the distributor in time with a V belt. Take the cap off and there may be timing marks in there. I would think the shaft would get oil from the timing gears, not sure. Motor oil.
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Default Re: Strange Distribuor - F162

Heins is correct, it is a later engine with the distributor running off the timing gears in front. Likely the builder used this version as a way to get by with less clearance above the motor.
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FW, I was guessing, I wasn't for sure.
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Thank You All

Would i fill it near the top , 1/2way or roughly how full do you think it should be?
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I believe that the filler cap simply drains back to the pan, check to be sure but any oil put in there should raise the level on the dip stick. Wouldn't hurt to find a book for that unit for reference.
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Thanks All - Its shown in the manual as per below but no info is stated about it.

Where would it be supplied oil from based on that diagram?
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Hard to tell from here but it appears that a small amount will be retained in that housing. Mainly those componnets get lubricated from the oil that is thrown off the gear train. If you ever watch the gears when running there is always a trail of oil following the gear teeth as they spin. They pick up the oil that comes off the front main bearing and it transfers from gear to gear, the excess thrown off creates a mist that is enough to keep things at the top wet enough for normal use. In some heavy duty engines there will be a oil nozzle that sprays oil on those gears for extra lube. on the distributor there may be a plug on the side for use to install a grease zerk for occasional lube intervals, most Delco units have those. Looking close at the diagram, you will see that there aren't any oil seals between the gear and the bushings so any excess oil in that housing will run back into the crank case. I suspect there is a drain hole there so the oil will flow down, other wise you would take forever to add any oil, also when refilling for an oil change. Even if that plug is only for adding oil for that shaft, with no seals it will drain any excess back down.

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[/COLOR]Just studied your first pictures and you can see that grease zerk on the distributor, that is what lubes the distributor end, be carful not to over lube it as any excess will be forced into the breaker points and foul it up big time.

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Default Re: Strange Distribuor - F162

Just a quickie. Most distributors are equipped with bushings(sleeve bearings). These typically use oil not grease as a lubricant. Bushings are typically porous bronze. This is impregnated with oil and many times there is an oil well around the bushing or a oiling port to replenish the bushings oil. There are a few dist. with actual ball bearings which do use grease and any tach drive types gears would need periodic grease. I'm not arguing with anyone that there may possibly be a distributor out there with bushings that uses grease but that is uncommon in my experience. Most of the distributors I've seen that were "greased" have come in with problems due to low lubrication. I just don't think the grease can work/stay in the high speed, relatively large surface area, close tolerance situation of the shaft to bushing contact area. Take it for what it's worth. Good luck.
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The lubrication on those type units as shown above is mainly for the right angle drive gears enclosed in the housing. They usually have a plug in those places so as to keep folks from trying to pump it full of grease every time they see a zerk. You wouldn't believe how many of them that I've come across over the years that were pumped so full that there was actually grease well into the points cavity!
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