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Baker Monitor Help


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Old 04-18-2016, 05:00:43 PM
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Default Baker Monitor Help

Hi all I have recently purchased a Baker Monitor 1 1/2hp engine to restore,
It seems to be in good order but i don't have a clue what spark plug to use, can someone please help?
Also the Hit n miss latch arm docent appear to be long enough to touch the end of the governor weight, should it have something on the end or maybe mine is bent or had been cut, Can anyone help with a close up picture?

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Is that the VJ model, 1 1/4 hp? I have a square fuel tank VJ that runs well. I'd be glad to provide pictures if its that model.
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:25:47 PM
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Default Re: Baker Monitor Help

I believe a champion X spark plug will work. They have a pipe thread and can still be purchased at Napa. Many old Fords use those plugs. As for the latch out arm. It should not hit until the engine reaches operating speed to "latch out" the valve.
Hold out the governor weight by hand and see if it will then hit the latch out arm. If it does then you are golden.
The arms do get worn/broke/bent and can be repaired if necessary, its not a big issue.
I believe if you go to Harrys webpage you will see a lot of info in these cute engines. http://www.old-engine.com/monitor.htm
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Default Re: Baker Monitor Help

Hi thank you both for your replays, yes it is a vj model, I though it looked like a pipe thread but was unsure of the size.
Pictures of the latch out arm would be great, if I hold the governor weight out it does not touch, seems like it's almost an inch to short but I can see wear on the end where it has come into contact with the weight in the past so I can only assume it has been bent

Thanks again for help Glen
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Here are instructions for setting the detent, starting on page 6
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I'll get pictures and send them tonight.
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Thank you so much, that manual is excellent and will be a great help. I have found the plug size through crossing the information from Grape, and make it 1/2" x 14 tpi pipe thread and have managed to order a Champion 25 which seems to be an equivalent model of plug and less than half the price of a champion X which seem to be pretty rare over here and cost a premium. Hopefully i will be able to pick up a couple of spares at swap meets later in the year. Failing that a chap i know travels for the Cool Springs crankup so might have better luck.
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I've read here that some of the new plugs don't have the glazed porcelain or at least not glazed in the combustion chamber area. These tend to foul quicker and are not as desirable as a good original one would be. I purchased my Champion 25 from a spark plug collector who had a few duplicates for sale. Its an old style "take apart" plug.
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Here is a photo of my detent setup.
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An autolite #3095 works well on my monitor.
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Great info, thank you all.
Now in to my next question, where the mixture valve attaches to the engine. Should there be some kind of seal around it as mine is a very loose fit?
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Mine just has a single screw clamping it to the side of the head and holds it tight. No gasket or sealing material used anywhere on my engine. The Baker Monitor was designed to be maintained by a farmer with the usual hand tools and not require any gaskets.
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When we were looking at buying our first hit n miss engine we had a choice a Farm Pumper or a Monitor. We loved them both but couldn't buy both being on a limited budget. We bought the Farm Pumper and we always see the Monitor we left behind at nearly all the Rallies we go to. The guy who bought it has had very little trouble with it and we still like it a lot, enough to have made an offer on it to bring the two engines back together again. Unfortunately it wont be living with us for the foreseeable future but I will continue to "bat on".
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thanks for the link to the manual.
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