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What is this train hauling?


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Old 02-15-2010, 03:53:21 PM
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Default What is this train hauling?

Anybody care to guess. I found this picture in an antique shop. How about what rail road ?
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It looks like traction engines and what appears to me to be early threshing equipment....
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Default Re: What is this train hauling ?

That what it looks like to me too.
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Looks to me like maybe jaw type rock or ore crushers????
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Default Re: What is this train hauling ?

Why not ask an easy question like is there life on mars or something! I've been staring at your pic and thought I'd give it a shot,( its either that or watch figure skating with my wife!!!) . First off I'd say the locomotive is an American class, probably 20 sum years old when they took the picture. It also has a very different pilot, which may help Id it if the right person sees it. Your in Ohio, Baltimore and Ohio ran all kinds of this style engine. Not to much to see of the traction engines but there's an interesting stack . I'll guess that this is a load of O.S. Kelly engines , pre 1905, with early threshers ( straw carriers ,no blowers). If nothing else you gave me an excuse to play on the computer.
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Is that picture still at the antique shop, or is it hanging on your wall?
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Default Re: What is this train hauling?

I do have the picture but I am sure it is a copy.my scan is not as clear as my copy. I can see the spokes on the rear wheels on the traction engine. I think it is also hauling thrashers and engines. I was wanting to see if someone could put names on who made them. Looks like there are some good thoughts.
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Default Re: What is this train hauling?

I may be able to kind-of make out the spokes...are they in a star shape?
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Default Re: What is this train hauling?

Neat Picture !

Any chance of playing with the settings on your scanner and posting a clearer image ?

While I can't identify any brand names on it myself, maybe a clearer picture would help others to pick out some details on them. Does look to be fairly good sized threshing machines, possibly earlier wooden ones by the overall shape, but again, I can't make out much detail on them.
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this is an attempt to get better pictures, I separated the engine from the train. The steam engine looks real old, it has kerosene lights., anybody care to put a date to it ?
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its not before 1900 as the engine has knuckle couplers on it but it might be pre air brake or very early air brake so i would say that it is between 1900 and 1910 probly closer to the former than the latter

it appears to be at the factory if someone can nail down the traction engine make and where the plant was it would be a simple matter of doing a little digging for the exact railroad
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The engines look to be single side mounts, have straight cleats, straight stacks with a unique bell or cover on them. Were any engines built with straight cleats after 1910?

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Default Re: What is this train hauling?

Good focusing!, lets try fire two. left hand steering, looks like the dome is way at the back, and no governer sticking up. How about a Steven's about 1900.Does that say loco 384?
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It looks to be A. W. Stevens Co. traction engine. There is a steam dome on above firebox, governor in horizontal, straight smokestack and straight cleats on rear wheel. It appeared on page 252 of Encyclopedia of American Steam Traction Engines Jack Norbeck.
Page 251 Norbeck book tells about AW Stevens and Son Co. pre 1898 Genoa to Auburn NY then in 1898 moved to Marinette, Wisconsin. Hard to tell the location between time period.
The thresher appeared to be hand feed AW Stevens as shown a picture in Encyclopedia of American Farm Implements and Antiques C. H. Wendel page 353.

Nice rare machinery flat car hauler photo.

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Default Re: What is this train hauling?

Thanks to everyone, some of you steam people really have come up with some good thoughts. I had no ideas and now glad that I posted . Would anyone have a picture of the traction engine that could be posted ?
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Hi All,
It must have been a big day, looking at all the by standers. I expect some of the older ones, thought "I can't see that lot catching on"
It's hard to remember our antiquated toys were once the cutting edge of technology.
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The Janney coupler was patented in 1873, plus 100's of other similar designs before 1900.
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Default Re: What is this train hauling?

The locomotive looks very similiar to a restored P. C. R. R. model on display in Virginia City, Nevada. The locomotive in Nevada was built in Sacramento, California. I am not sure how a western built locomotive would be connected with an eastern factory.
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Once the "Golden Spike" was driven, I would imagine a locomotive could have traveled pretty much anywhere in the country that had connecting lines.

If the steam engines and threshers were being transported cross country, would they have run an eastern engine to the west coast or haul a load half way and switch loco's, or use a western engine making a return trip from hauling a load east ???

I don't have all of the books to look through myself to try to identify brands, but it would make sence that the engines & threshers would be the same brand whether they are A.W. Stevens or some other brand. If A.W. Stevens made both that look like what's shown, then that's as likely a guess as anything so far, unless someone else can identify another brand that made both items that match the photo. I can't imagine it being a mixed load of different manufacturers.
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Here's your engine picture:



Here's a picture of the replica of the Levithian at the Owosso Steam Train Festival in July. The guy built it in his garage. Beautiful engine!



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