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4HP IHC Model Famous/Titan/Mogul Trucks


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Old 08-12-2012, 07:40:26 PM
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Default 4HP IHC Model Famous/Titan/Mogul Trucks

After a few months of looking and asking, I finally was able to get a set of drawings for the ¼ scale trucks. Unfortunately, no castings, but I’m sure glad I found these . After reviewing the drawings which were right to scale, I found that many of the dimensions used for the metal parts were an “ODD” size due to the ¼ scale on the prints . Most of the readily available raw materials locally come in standard sizes. Also, many of the dimensions make the parts measured in 0.001’s of an inch which make a back yard fabricator wince at trying to make things come out even. So what I did was take the overall dimensions given and rounded them up or down just a wee bit so things were easy to make using what I have at hand . For instance a 12 spoke 7” diameter wheel rim has an outside circumference of 21.99”. Divide that by 12 and you get 1.832” for spoke to spoke holes in the flat stock before rolling the rim? So I just used 21” for the circumference when divided by 12 equals a nice even 1.75. For the 5” wheel it came out to be 15.75 divided by 12 = 1.31” between the spokes? I used 15.0” which gives me 1.25” between spokes. Sure the wheels will be a wee bit smaller, but they are sure easer to layout and make. Here are a few photos of the new layout design work and raw materials . There will be a lot more to this thread as I continue on with my new project, so use the thread tool in the header and Subscribe to this thread, to follow it’s progress .
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Here is my jig on the drill press for drilling the holes , and drilling the holes in the ¾ x 1/16” flat stock . More to follow.
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I had to “find” my H/F ring roller, and after I did, I started rolling the rims . I made two 5”, and two 7” wheel rims that came out nice . I then welded the rims together and ground them flush . More to follow.
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Making the hubs was another fun thing utilizing various sized pipe on hand to make them . I started with a 6” piece of ½” pipe to get the ¾” OD I needed. I then turned down a 6” piece of 3/8” pipe to fit inside the ¾” pipe, and then turned down a piece of 6” ¼” pipe to fit inside the 3/8” pipe. I then cut the ½” and 3/8” pipe into 7/8” pieces and pressed them together with some Locktite. I then cut the ¼” pipe into 1 1/8” pieces and pressed them into the other pipe already made with some Locktite leaving 1/8” on each side . I then machined each hub with an approximate 10 degree flat surface for drilling the spoke holes. Drilling the spoke holes required my finding the dividing head with a three jaw chuck I found at the "FLEA" market years ago and mounting it on the milling machine. Once it was set up, I just set the correct angle of the chuck for the 5” wheels, lined up the center and drilled the first 6 holes starting at 0 degrees 60 degrees apart. I then reversed the hub in the chuck and drilled the second 6 holes 60 degrees apart starting at 30 degrees which gives me the required spoke spacing for the staggered spokes. Then I did the second one, and reset the chuck angle and drilling distance for the second set of hubs for the 7” wheel. Then I tapped each of the 12 spoke holes in each hub for the spokes. Yes they are different. It sure made a nice hub More to follow.
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I bought a lot of nice brass rod with loop ends at the “flea” market years ago , that was back in the shed, with just the right OD I needed . After cutting the loop ends off on the band saw, I used my handy “flea” market rod cutter to cut the spokes to the required length. I then beveled one end of each spoke on the bench grinder so that when I threaded the one end, the thread would be square . I made 24 - 2 ½” and 24 – 3 ½” spokes . More to follow.
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Now came time for the assembly of the hubs, spokes and rims I made . I wonder how it will all fit together and how concentric the wheels will be . Here is a photo of the 1st. spoke, more spokes, and then all 12 in the first 5” wheel. I had a minor spoke fit in the rims , but the next sized drill at a slight alternating angle matching the spoke angles took care of that. I cleaned up the hub, put the wheel on a 3/8” rod and spun it. Not bad for the first one with a very slight hop and wiggle that can be taken out as I set the spokes in the rim . More to follow.
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