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Would anyone have any idea what model this engine would be?
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse engine

From the remains that I see it is a Y-VA but I don't know if it would be a 32A or 32B. Could even be a little later than that but I can't see enough of it and the head is missing which would give a few more clues.
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse engine

Scott, it apears to be smaller than most of them, that is an old car tire next to the flywheel. I think they used the tire to start it. What was the smallest of that type of engines that they built?
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Were you able to get to the governor housing to see if there was any type of tag on it or serial number stamped in? I still think it is one of the smaller Y-VA engines but I know Fairbanks made many styles and sizes of engines and especially the flywheels for them. Does this engine happen to be for sale and if so are you buying it?

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The smallest HP in that style was the 40Hp and was a 12" bore I believe.
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Scott, I haven't seen it, a guy gave me a picture of it and I am trying to check it out. I was wondering what it might weigh.
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The weight would be hard to guess without knowing it for sure what it is and how much is there. The flywheel looks wider than mine to me so I would say total weight would be 10-12,000? Do you know what it is attached to? A generator or pulley setup or?
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse engine

It looks like it run a flat belt. The pulley and shaft doesn't look like Fairbanks Morse.
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The shaft looks like Fairbanks especially where it bolts to the flywheel but the pulley I don't know about.
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse engine

I had one that looked like this one with the heavy flywheel, can't be sure of the size from the picture, but my flywheel and engine each weighed 10,000.
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Gene, did it weigh 20000 lbs?
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I can't imagine that the single cylinder like that would weigh 20,000 unless it was with the generator end. The small singles are usually 10-15,000 depending on options and flywheel. My twin cylinder probably only weighed 18,000 with flywheel but I did not weigh it so only guessing. My 8,000# forklift lifted the twin with a little extra ballast weight and the flywheel was less than 4,000 for sure.
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse engine

Looking at the cylinder in the second photo, I can tell you that it is definitely a Y-VA. It is also called the model 32A in later literature. If it is a 12 inch bore, it's a 32A-12, a 14 inch is a 32A-14. The flywheel weight will vary a lot depending on which one it is. If it is a 78x10 flywheel, I'd say about 8000 pounds. The 12 is 40 hp per cylinder at 300 rpm, and the 14 is 50 per cylinder at 257.
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse engine

Did any of these Fairbanks morse engines start with a shotgun shell?
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I am not aware of any Fairbanks diesel that started with a shell. The only Fairbanks that I know of that started with the shell were the earlier gas engines. I am sure they could have had one but I do not know.
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I have a 60hp NB F&M oil engine that you can start with a match. On top of the cyl. is a spring loaded plunger you can unscrew and put a match in it. Charge the cyl. with gas mixture and smack it with a mallet and it should start. I have not tried it yet. Maybe this summer http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ahNUCxx93Ag
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A friend has an 8 HP with match start. You can't get strike anywhere matches here in NJ, so he has to go to PA to get them! The engine came from a basement of a building in Montclair, NJ. It had to be taken out of the building, in pieces, thru a hatch in the building sidewalk, the same way it was installed in the first place! The doors hadn't been opened in over 60 years, and he spent 5 weels soaking and tapping on the hinges to get them open! The parts were hoisted out with an auto wrcker boom! The engine was used to pump water to a tank, mounted on the roof of the building, used before city water was installed. The building owner would not allow him to take out the pump.
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse engine

I checked this engine out and this is what I found out:
Bore 12"
Flywheel 74" dia X 11" wide
Crankshaft dia 6 1/2"
#stamped on cylinder block 024181
7' tall from bottom of base to top of head studs
The engine tags are gone, if that is the ser # what is the year? What would the model be? The second picture is the head and piston. What would the HP be?
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse engine

IF diesels were included in the same S/N series as the rest of their engines, then it's 1902. This is according to the list by Denis Rouleau.

One of the diesels experts needs to speak up.

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The serial number should be stamped on the base on the right side down below the governor and air start system (Exhaust side). Looks like a rats nest is covering it up. The number you found is not the number for the engine. The number should be in the year range of the late twenties and the engine is a 40Hp. The model is a Y-VA 32A or 32B from what I can tell as the piston still has the wings on it. Looks like it would make a nice project if you get it bought. The weights shown in my book list this single cylinder anywhere from 12,500 to 18,500 pounds depending on the flywheel ordered. This one looks about like the middle size of the flywheels so I would guess around 15-16,000 pounds.
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That's most likely the heaviest flywheel available for a 12 inch Y-VA. It's going to be really close to 8000 pounds because it's almost the same size as the 8000 pound flywheels on the 32E14 engines. Those have a flywheel that's 78" diameter and 10 inches wide, and they look about the same as that one in regard to the thickness of the rim. That's without a doubt the biggest flywheel I've seen on a 12 inch engine.

That engine is rated at 40 hp at 300 rpm. It's also known as the model 32A12. They were made from 1924/25 to ?. I have a 32B14 that was made in 1929, so the latest that may be is 1928 or 1929. Scott is right about the location of the serial number. It's on a flat spot on mine, on the base facing up, near the corner under the air start lever. It's right near the corner of the cylinder base where it bolts to the lower base. It's also on the flywheel stamped near where the extension shaft bolts on. Mine does not have the number stamped on the crankshaft anywhere, just some other numbers/letters stamped on the flywheel end.
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