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Old 10-30-2007, 05:22:31 PM
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Thanks everyone for the info, been a while but I think there might have been a christmas tree straight out from the flywheel in picture. Had valves and pipes etc. Well then I retract my statement "pumping salt water deep into the ground". And state "pumping natural gas into a pipeline"
Seems like the Arrow web site used to tell what their engines were based on, Lister, Whitte, Waukesha, Continental. Or maybe I've got the wrong company
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:59:12 PM
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Hi Bill,
Arrow bought the C-Series line from Contential in the early 70's. Contential bought it from Waukesha in the early 50's who called it the Climax Engine....Waukesha designed it in the late 40's

Arrow bought the L-Series line from Lufkin in the 70's

Arrow bought the rights to the Witte Engine Works from National Oilwell when IT was owned by US Steel.

Arrow bought the 220 & 330 Waukesha line from Waukesha in the early 80's

We also used to built Lister gas comperssors. Not Lister engines.
Hopefully I havent confused matteres even more
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Doug, what is the story about the relationship between Arrow and F-M ZC line of engines?
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Hi Bill,
Arrow bought the C-Series line from Contential in the early 70's. Contential bought it from Waukesha in the early 50's who called it the Climax Engine....Waukesha designed it in the late 40's

Arrow bought the L-Series line from Lufkin in the 70's

Arrow bought the rights to the Witte Engine Works from National Oilwell when IT was owned by US Steel.

Arrow bought the 220 & 330 Waukesha line from Waukesha in the early 80's

We also used to built Lister gas comperssors. Not Lister engines.
Hopefully I havent confused matteres even more
Doug: Did you hear KOEL has entered into an agreement with Wauk now to manufacture large stationary gas engines?

Can you confirm the K6 is a modified KOEL product?
Rajiv from KOEL sales is not clear on who are his US distributors because some engines are being rebranded ( the Duetz clones are a good example )

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Old 11-01-2007, 02:08:52 PM
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Well, I started this thread to show some pics of "newer" oilifeld engines that are still working for a living. And to see other folks pics of the working oilfield engines in thier part of the world. So lets see them Not a Q&A about new production models. But I'll awnser any questions if I know the awnser.

NAMpeters,
Arrow started out by manufacturing aftermarket clutch parts for the Fairbanks ZC engines. From there it grew to manufacturing other replacment parts for the Fairbanks ZC line. But Arrow does not own Fairbanks. We just make and sell replacement parts for them.

Douglas,
I don't know much about KOEL so I'm not much help. But the K6 engine IS a product of Arrow.
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Doug Could I contact you off list about K6.
I don't mean to be a pest but would like some detailed information.

All you need to know about KOEL is they are big on the verge of becoming very big and known over here ( like Kubota 20 years ago ). Small engines to ships, thats a hell of a line up.
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Here are some engines/compressors I work on here in Northwestern Pa. The first one is an Ajax 2802le 400hp., next Ajax dpc360 360hp., Ajax180dpc 180hp.(just like the cooper-penjax), the last one is a Caterpillar3408 425hp. driving a Gardner-Denver screw compressor. All are used in gas gathering except the 180 which discharges into a pipeline at 700psi. I'll post more as I get to them.
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Thanks Chris
Your picture of the 180-DPC Ajax reminded me that somewhere here I have a picture of a DP-180 "standard engine" on a pump jack in North Dakota I didnt think that Ajax ever built any engines that big that weren't compressor engines. And its the only one I've ever seen. I'll try to find that picture and more details.
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This looks like a Ajax DPC-115 natural gas compressor.
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Hey Doug and all, got a picture of this one on the way to Church today.
What kind of engine is it? My guess is a Waukesha. The casting looks too "heavy duty" for a Continental. Hey, and I'll stick my neck out again and say "I believe this one is pumping salt water deep in the ground." The little pump looks like is is suitable for liquid. It has a "christmas tree" and a sign that reads something like; do not shut off valve, capillary tube inside call xxx xxxx.
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Hi Bill

Actually thats another gas compressor. The BIG radiator looking thing in the front is the gas cooler, the engines' radiator is also intergrated into the cooler. The Engine looks like a Caterpiller 3306?
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Aw I'll never get it right Thanks Doug
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These are pictures of a 118 Fairbanks and a 208 Fairbanks.
These are pumping that good ole Texas oil.
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Just to show that I am not totally married to Fairbanks engines, here are pictures of a C-96 Arrow engine and a 8 1/2 x 10 Ajax or larger.
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Thanks Allen!
I was wondering if you were gonna chime in on this thread. By the way, hows the 503 and 739 coming?
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Doug, I have been working away from home the past 3 weeks. Didn't have time to do any surfing. I am still working on the head on the 503. The seats on both valves need to be replaced, but I am having one heck of a time getting them out. The valve guides are in very good shape, but I asked for new ones for my birthday. I will remove the guides and maybe I can knock the old seats out with a punch. I finally got the piston unstuck on the 739, but still have a cracked head.
Can't leave without another Fairbanks or two. The one on the left is a 52 Fairbanks (in my yard) and the one on the right is a 346 Fairbanks.
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Thanks Allan,
The 346 is my favorite of the ZC line. Perhaps because its kind of an akward size, at least in this area. And they seem to be alot cheaper to buy than the 503's and 739's. Also the 346 is the smallest of the "kick start" ZC's, in that they were not started with a crank handle.
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Doug, you are right about the 346s being a bit cheaper. We bought ours in KS for $150 in 2004. It needed a new radiator ($30) and a valve job ($50). It runs great. We have all six sizes of the ZC engines on three trailers and take them around to the shows here in southwest OH. Not too many of them in this area so we get to answer lots of questions.

I was in OKC last week and took a few pics of a 503 & 739 in operation.

Allan, Dick's Engine shop in Ellinwood, KS knows how to get a valve seat out of a cylinder head.
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Doug Waggoner, Here's my two cents worth on the Arrow K6. I'm a well site mechanic for a CBM company and I work on those K6's on a daily basis. They are troublesome to say the least. The quality of the metals and machine work is really sorry. They lose oil pressure and bearings all the time, push rods are so soft that the rocker arm beats the cup out of the ends in short order and they leak oil from every seam. The oil control is poor and the blowby out the pcv soaks the entire engine and anything else close by. I wouldn't say too much about those foreign made POS's around anyone who has to work on them. Your liable to get an earful! On the other hand we run bunches of C46's and C66's and C96's and even a few Waukesha 6 cylinders and they are absolutely indestructable. There's no doubt in my mind that the old American made units are vastly superior to those crappy K6's Arrow is foisting off on producers today! I'll get some pics this week of these units out in the field so you can see what I'm talking about.
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Hi Bob,
From my experences, 99% of problems with K6 engines are from running them too fast, i.e. over 800rpm, and a lack of maintance. I have been in the field MANY times and seen K6 engines running in excess of 1500 RPM. Try running any other slow speed oilfield engine at those speeds and tell me just how long they'll last. As far as the push rods go, if the pumper or who ever changes the oil will take the time while the oil is draining to check the adjustment of the rocker arms, this will greatly reduce the problem. This is even listed in the service manual. Im not sure if anyone ever reads it though. Its not the hardness of the push rods thats the problem, as any new engine wears in you will get a few thousands extra clearence there. If this is not checked and the engine is left to run for months between service the rocker arms will be slapping the valves open, not pushing the valves open. And can very easily beat the tops of the push rods off. Know what I mean?
The little breather on top of the valve cover blowing oil? If this is the case someone has removed the breather shim from it. And if it has been removed yes it will blow oil. That shim is in there to create a vaccume on the upstroke of the piston. Be sure to check for that.
Yes, please send me your pictures. email them to me at Dwaggonner@arrowengine.com OR just give me a call 1-800-331-3662 This phone # is on the air cleaner of all of our engines so all you gotta do is give us a call. I Guarantee I can resolve your issues with this engine.
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