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Old 08-19-2008, 06:59:41 PM
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Good afternoon, I have had a strange exchange with a gentleman wanting to sell a oilfield engine. His one picture of the machine showed many items missing; oilers, possible main valve and fuel valve, hot tube, bushing and chimney. His ad said best offer. He didnt know if the pistons were stuck. I responded to the ad and asked for more information and possibly pictures. Since the ad said best offer, I made an offer reflecting what I saw in the pictures. He replied that I was not in the price range and my offer did not justify answers or pictures. He went on to say " I may of been born at night, but not last night"
I felt the answer needed a response, so I emailed back that the missing (or unseen) items could easily add $1000 to the cost and since he seemed unwilling to answer my questions, and since he didnt mention a price range, I felt my offer justified at the time. Not sure why he went off like that.
Question: when someone is selling at "best offer" why not offer the additional information so the true condition of the item is revealed? And if someone has a particular price range in mind, why not mention that in the ad.
I have to admit I was a bit surprised by the response. Jim.
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:32:33 PM
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If someone says "best offer" they should be prepared to listen to every offer made and respond even if it is one they consider way too low. If someone thinks they will be insulted by low offers, they should state "best offer over $2000 gets it" or such. Sometimes people's ignorance of engine prices leads them to think they have gold when they don't. I remember a gent having a 6 HP Type H that I tried to buy, this was in the mid 1970's. He said "make me an offer" and I said $200 (which was a fair price for the engine in the mid 70's). He said I must think he's a fool as one sold recently at an auction near him and brought 4 times that. Of course the one that brought 4 times my offer was an original 8 HP portable Type N Fairbanks. Not an equal comparison but to him an engine was an engine.
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:48:29 AM
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I see the same thing in the old car market. I offered a guy a good price for a 67 Fairlane. One thousand for a car with flat tires,broken windshield,did not run and bad seats. He started telling me I was crazy,he could get eight thousand at auction. So I left and he still has the car five years later. So people think they have gold when they have trash.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:53:26 AM
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I just had this happen to me a while ago. An older gentleman has a 2 1/2 H.P. Foos Jr. hopper cooled that I have known he has had for a few years. He is not an engine collector as this is the only one he has and doesn't really know alot about it other then its history. He told me a few years ago that he wanted to get it running for himself, well, that never happened, and I went to go see him again a few months ago. Not expecting it, he offered to sell it to me when I was there and he said to make him a "reasonable offer" Well, the engine isn't really rough, but a few pieces are busted and missing. From watching auctions and ads over the years, I know about what a Foos of this size would bring, and being in its condition, I came up with a price in my mind that would be fair and told him. His response was that he wouldn't even consider my offer and that he would just let it sit right where it was. I guess thats fine, but he wants way more then what its worth, so i guess thats where it sits for now.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:56:14 AM
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Let's face it and just say it:
A jerk is born every minute........and perhaps even more often.......which explains the overabundance OF them........ .......
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:24:13 PM
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This wasnt a best offer deal but i remember when i was hunting for my first Briggs FH, i love them things, I posted a wanted add here on Harrys for a FH. To make a long story short at that same time i was just starting out in the antique engine hobby so one day i got a responce, he said he had an FH, said all that has been done to it and said that what was repaired and he also said it was free. He ment free by the engine being free, not stuck, I however took it as free meaning the whole damn engine was free for me to have! and i was like...OK...I'll take it and am willing to pay what ever shipping is. Ya well that didnt last long, the dude emailed back and said a few things that i fail to remember, then he said, "you probably cant afford this engine anyway" (what ever) and then i emailed back and said, ohnest mistake, i thought you ment free as if the engine were free to have, i said i mis understood you and i apologised. I sent the email, no responce, next day, i sent a copy of the email,....no responce.....It was a simple ohnest mistake but i guess some people cant admit when they make a mistake too. I guess there eego's too big.
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Old 08-20-2008, 01:03:11 PM
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I have run into. crooks .liers .hecklers.people with just no personalty.and the ones that dont have a clue are in breds.........most of the people are pretty darn nice.....and normal......
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I think that the person that is trying to charge to much name should be posted so we can all see it . then maybe some of this would slow down. & then to, the person could explain why so high a price for frozen , crackedbusted junk with parts missing
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Toolman, I dont think that this person is trying to charge too much, He just didnt mention what price was the "Best Offer" . I do know that his "Best Offer" was not what I offered, by his reaction.
Most People, whos ads I respond to, are courteous and helpfull . This was the exception to the rule. Jim.
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Here's an odd thought .... MAYBE, just maybe you offered him too much and he thought you were pulling his leg!!!
I know that's not very likely, but it would be awful funny if that was the case!
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