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Old 11-23-2009, 08:28:40 PM
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Tilton,

I sent you a PM regarding the location. I recieved the info from a friend, and all I know is that it is in a Louisana State Park, south of New Orleans on the Mississippi.

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Old 11-23-2009, 10:35:12 PM
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A few more pictures of the engines at Trail run.
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:19:18 PM
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Boy, I wish you'd hurry up and get the bearings scraped in on the twin Klein and get back on this project so you can get us a utube of this running. :-)
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:48:29 AM
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Hay you'r right Mike, and to all the others I'v been on a nother BIG project that I'v been wanting to do... Thanks to Gary Stoner, He got the last main bearing done (its only 10LBS of babbit) and needed to get the crank scraped in, so thats what I'v been on the last week...

This is going to be my next BIG project, and I will be doing something just like this on Harrys when I get moving.

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Old 12-01-2009, 02:13:07 AM
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We got the oiler system all cleaned and installed over the past two day, I don't know if this is all factory, but for sure all DeLaVergne's had a system like this. The copper pot holds a gallon of oil and the sight glass will show the amount, so there's no need to wonder if you have oil in the pot. There are 6 lunkenheimer oilers, one for the cylinder 4 are the mains and the last photo is for the rod through the banjo that's on the crank. Going back down to Trail Run tomorrow to get the fuel tank, and the crank guard, and will be getting the fuel system next....enjoy
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Old 12-01-2009, 01:15:35 PM
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Fantastic photos and story !! Thanks for sharing them with us, I can't wait to see a video of it running
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Old 12-02-2009, 01:18:45 AM
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Thanks alot Wayne, I plan on doing more soon, and there not a lot of people that get to ever see an engine like this. I just hope the winter does not get to cold, or this engine start up will half to wait till spring...Did not get anything done on it today, had to go get the rest of the parts, that we did not have room for on the move...
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Old 12-04-2009, 04:09:29 AM
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Got the fuel pump apart and cleaned and repacked today, for the number of times this thing has gone up and down in it's life it was in real good shape. The right serial# is stamped in the top of the pump, so you know it's done it's share of work. Try buying a fuel pump today that will last 112 years...
The rocker arms had to come back off to get the pump installed, these things weigh about 60lbs. each and are 3feet long. That was fun to do by myself... Also got the fuel tank cleaned up today, so it will be the rest of the fuel system tomorrow if it's not to cold out there....enjoy.

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Old 12-04-2009, 09:45:01 AM
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Buckeye Man,

Thanks for sharing your story. That's what engine collecting is all about.

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Old 12-07-2009, 02:52:06 PM
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The fuel system is done, the most interesting part of the fuel system is the way the engine goverens itself, (photo 1 ) shows the bypass valve, As the engine comes up to speed the governor moves an arm that presses on a relief valve, this lets fuel go back to the fuel tank instead of fuel injector, but it does not stop all fuel. The bypass valve is two stage, so when the bypass starts to open there is still some fuel going to the injector, if the engine is still picking up speed then the primary part opens and all fuel returns to the tank, then as the engine speed comes back down the primary closes and some fuel starts going to the injector, if this is all adjusted right the engine will run at a very constant speed. The relief velve is adjustable with a fine thread nut, top and bottom, so you can realy fine tune the speed you want.. Photo 2 shows the line from the relief valve back to the fuel tank, with the arm from the governor in place..
I have water lines and air line and muffler pipe left to hook up and the weather is getting colder each day, so not sure on that start up date.... I'll keep you all up to date
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:23:31 PM
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Thanks for the update in the Delavergne. I have been following it with interest.
After, seeing the list of known engines, I thought I remembered buying a serial number tag for one from Alan King when he was clearing his collection out. I finally found it today. It is for serial number 3317. I was surprised when I saw it was one number different then Coolspring's (3318). I bought it because I thought that would be as close as I would get to owning a Delavergne. I remember asking Alan where he got it but he could not remember. He only said that he had had it for over thirty years and I got it from him in 2001. Could this tag come off an engine that was in the same installation as the one at Coolspring. If anybody knows, please let me know. I would really like to know what happened to this engine. Thanks, Mark Schuller
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Hi Mark,
To answer your question, No there was only one engine in the building that Coolsprings engine was in. It came from york station near Rossville Oh. witch is south of Zanesville Oh.
There was a DeLaVergne in a station near Killbuck Oh. and it was moved in the early 60 to Millesburg Oh. but was never installed in that station, the engine just sat out behind the building, and that's where your tag may have come from.
Is your tag about the same size as the one on the engine at Coolsprings ???

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DH, I have seen the tag on the Coolspring engine but cannot remember the size. My tag is a stamped metal tag which measures 3 1/2" X 7 1/2" and uses 4 screws to hold it on the engine. It has all of the information that is on your cast tag. It even has the same patent dates listed. Too bad there is no horsepower listed on it. What size was the engine at Millesburg? Mark
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Hi Mark
The Millersburg engine was 35 Hp also. I don't think the one at Coolsprings is marked. To bad the guy that told me about it did not keep track of it, but he also took a lot of parts off a nother engine that no one wanted. Back in the 60s no one wanted an engine that big, and most of the colectors back then had no way of moving engine that big...He once told me that there where Kline engine going to the junk by the truck load, and there again no one wanted them...Boy how things have changed....If its got a flywheel on it someone wants it... Thanks

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Hey Buckeyeman, I don't think you'll be starting this, or even rolling it over, if our weather comes your way, 16 below 0 with a 32 below 0 wind chill, so dig out your long handles.
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The work has slowed a little with the cold and all the holiday things going on, but I have got a little done. There must be about 25 feet of piping on this engine. and most of it has to be replaced. There is water in to the engine in three different places, and then are there three places it come out, this engine also has the air start system on it, and water injection, and there are 6 valves that needed to be taken apart and cleaned up. So there is lots of work still to be done. I took lotes of photos of all the piping befor Mike and I moved the engine, so I would have an idea of what I needed to put back on. It will not be all the same as before, but I'm going to try to get close...

Injoy and have a great holiday....
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Its looking great Dave!!!! Keep up the great work.
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Boy, you weren't kidding when when you told me the plumbing was a project in itself. It's looking good!
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Hello all and Happy New Year almost....I got the plumbing all done tonight, boy what a JOB... I think there were about 8 trips to the plumbing house the last 3 weeks, and I'm no pipe fitter, I leave those big jobs to my father,(he was the pipefitter in the family) I said earlyer that there was 6 valves that needed cleaned up but I forgot about a few, THERE WERE 11 all together, all were in real good shape and was able to use all the original ones but one... Tested the air system and have no leaks, but have not tested the water out, don't need anything freezing up now its done.(it only about 20 out side) and its going to get colder... So I'm not sure of a start up date..and I still need to get the muffler piped outside.... Enjoy

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When the crew at the NEWSM got the De La Vergne ready to run they read a bunch of textbooks on oil engines. The books recommended digging a hole in the ground and filling the hole with large stones to act as a muffler. The crew installed a precast concrete chamber in the ground and plumbed the exhaust into the bottom and out of the top of the chamber. Then it was filled with large stones, and the concrete cover installed.

The first time the engine started it lifted the concrete cover about 6 inches off the ground with every power stroke. It was really impressive. A larger pipe exiting the "muffler" fixed that problem.

The NEWSM didn't get the preheater torch with the engine so they have been using a very large propane torch. It only takes about 15 minutes to get the head warm enough to get it started.
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