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90Hp Twin Klein Model B Some Assembly Required


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Old 04-10-2011, 03:04:34 PM
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False Alarm, Machinery break down...Tim said maybe next weekend. We'll keep you informed....DH
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Old 04-24-2011, 01:55:34 AM
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Saturday I made a trip up to Sharon Pa.to Tim's shop to watch the first pass through the BIG cylinder... Running the bar at 9rpm's and feeding the bar at .025 per. one rev. it only took a little over 4 hours to make the cut....
Tim's 1951 G.A. Gray made in Cincinnati, Oh. is used all the time for many jobs but this was the first time doing a job like this. They will make one more pass on Monday like the one that was made on Sat. and then a finish cut, that will take maybe 12 or 14 hours, then off to be honed......DH
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Old 06-09-2011, 01:14:19 AM
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Well I finely got the 2nd cylinder back home. The men up at New Era Machine did a great job, and Tim found a place to get the cylinder honed after he was done boring it. I have it back 2 weeks now and got all the old paint and dirt cleaned and started Priming. It looks like I'm not going to get the piston back till mid July, Its at a nother shop in York Pa. having a sleeve put on. So things are starting to move along again.

Not sure how much work I'll get done on it this summer, I'v got 2 other projects I'm on right now and have one big job coming in sometime later on this summer (50hp) 7 1/2 foot 8 spoke flywheels. We will have some photos of it when we start on it........DH
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:51:09 AM
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This is the other engine I'v been working on sense I got home from Coolsprings, I just set the 2nd cylinder on yesterday morningl, and got it sanded off for the last coat of paint, I'll do it in the morning. I'v got a few more parts cleaned up and also painted and ready to go on as well.....Still no piston yet. Keith said maybe by Aug. And I'v been working on one other project that I have not started posting on here yet, It will be over on the regular gas engine page.....stay tuned..........DH
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:23:44 AM
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I am planing on getting back on this project soon. I got the rings ordered a few weeks ago, and told the guy no big rush but I would like them by the middle of June. Stay toned................DH
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:06:06 PM
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Default Re: 90Hp Twin Klein Model B Some Assembly Required

BuckeyeMan,

What a NEAT project! I think that those clamp on counter weights are very interesting. Was there a reason why they did it that way such as maybe making it eaiser to machine? I also like the "steam engine" like connecting rod with the wedges..........



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Old 04-27-2012, 01:13:43 PM
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Default Re: 90Hp Twin Klein Model B Some Assembly Required

Most high end engines have bolt on counterweights, My Crossley and my Ruston both have them. easier to machine and also you could have a forged steel crankshaft and just bolt on cast counterweights.
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Most high end engines have bolt on counterweights, My Crossley and my Ruston both have them. easier to machine and also you could have a forged steel crankshaft and just bolt on cast counterweights.
Dustin is right Jeff. The crank is steel and the counterweights are cast iron. Every gas engine I have has bolt on weights, and as much as I can remember, I can not right now think of any Gas engine that did not have bolt on weights.

This engine was built in 1906 or 07 and National Transit used this style rod bearings on most of there engine, and pumps. They also used Marine style rods on there engines, and it had nothing to do with the year built witch rod bearing they used.
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I have been getting some work done on this monster.
The first photo is the back side of the piston, you can clearly see the sleeve that had to be added, and that is or was one thing that held this project up a few years back, and then I just started taking on other projects, like the next one............
The Rings showed up about a week before Coolsprings and have been sitting in the box,
so last week I got them out and sized them for the cylinder. I also had to put new pins in the Piston to hold the rings from spinning, this is a ported engine and the ports are wider then the rings. If the ring gap was to make it around to the port will I do not want to think of that mess...
I got the other head off the shelf and got it ready for paint, I just kept working that night, the next thing I knew it was 3:30 am and I'm thinking its cool out tonight I'll just keep going. So the head got painted, Gasket cut, found the rest of the studs (20) of them and got them cleaned up. Needed to make 9 new ones because they where stretched, the next thing I know the suns coming up. O well, got to get it done somehow and its been to HOT most days.
The head went on the later that day after some sleep.
I'v gotten more parts out of the shed for cleaning today, these are the rocker arms, the L shaped ones are for Exhaust, but this job will slow down again tomorrow as the Cylinder for the 50Hp White & Middleton will be showing up here today and I'm going to try to get it done in the next 8 weeks or so. ...........DH
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Back on the twin this past weekend, and got a few big parts cleaned up, painted and installed. The cam shaft was the next piece that had to go on, before I added other things on the front. Had to get the wife out to help with this one. The shaft it self is 8 1/2 feet long, and its made out of 2inch material, and it needed to be lifted up over 7 feet to clear other parts.
I also got the other connecting rod in, Sorry I did not get any photos of that rigging job. The piston was already in the cylinder, so to get the pin in and through the rod,, the piston had to be rotated 180 degrees and the rod installed upside down and then rotated back the right way after the pin was in. What a job that was. The connecting rod is about 250 or 300 LBS. Still have the crank bearing to get fitted up and installed. You can also see in the background the two sets of rocker arms ready to be installed. ............DH
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And I thought I had big projects. What a great looking engine this is going to be. Keep up the great work. It is always a labor of love.
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I'v been getting a little work done on the twin Klein, It does not look like much. I got the Cam shaft in time, and all the rockers on and adjusted. I went through both the Ignitors, John had picked up lots of NOS. parts for these back when the engines where removed, so I did replace a few of the parts that had some wear on them.
I'v been making some bolts that where missing for the Intake system, and I am hoping to get those parts on here when it worms up a little this weekend. ..............DH
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Default Re: 90Hp Twin Klein Model B Some Assembly Required

Love the cam and rocker arm setup on this engine. Very cool.
Keep up the work and dont forget the video when this monster comes back to life.
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I got the Ignitors, and all the linkage installed the other day, and also got every thing timed right I hope. Timing everything was a little bit of a challenge with out rolling the engine through, sense the flywheels are not on right now, but I can turn it over with a ring I made to put on the end of the crank. So what I did was set one piston in the right spot, then moved the cams till the Ignitor tripped and then tightened the set screw, and then did the same for the other cylinder. Work is going slow, but it's going.
I was also ask the question why I was painting the engine the colors that I'm putting on it. Well it is the way Buckeye Pipeline had it painted, So it's staying the way they had it painted. ..............DH
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You are getting closer, looks very nice!

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Got some more of the Klein together today, Both intake pipes and the Fuel & Air mixer. It is really starting to look like an engine now, and I'm running out of big pieces, Still need to get the Governor out of the shed and get it apart and cleaned up. Then all the little things will take the longest to do. Air pipes, Water pipes, Oil pipes, Gas (Propane) Pipe. The Flywheels will be the last thing put on, so that they are not in the way of other work. Will post more as I get things done. ..............DH
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I would love to see a video of the first time you start that monster.
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Making some progress on the big Klein. Oiling system almost done, and so is the water system. Worm weather starting to come, and so other things will need to be taken care of. If anything else gets done I'll post photos. ................DH
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Making some progress on the big Klein. Oiling system almost done, and so is the water system. Worm weather starting to come, and so other things will need to be taken care of. If anything else gets done I'll post photos. ................DH
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