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Jacobson Machine Mfg. Co., Warren Pa.


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Default Jacobson Machine Mfg. Co., Warren Pa.

When were their first engines built and in what year did they stopped building engines. As the owner of a 5hp side shaft Jacobson built engine I was not able to find much discussion on SmokStak about Jacobson engines.

I'm even considering initiating another registry if you guys have pictures and data on your Jacobson to contribute to the project.

The highest serial number I've seen is 16656 so it is not a common engine but not that rare either.



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Dennis, Do you have any information on when the operation was moved to Titusville? Thanks, Leonard
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Dennis, Do you have any information on when the operation was moved to Titusville? Thanks, Leonard
I did not know that Jacobson moved to Titusville.
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I think it was in the late teens early 20's when they moved to Titasville after the factory burned down in Warren. I have a 5hp tank cooled that may have been made in Titasville. It doesn't have a s/n tag and I can't find a spot that looks like it ever had a tag. I don't know if Don Worley goes on the Stak, but he could tell us a lot more about Jacobson. Dave
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I believe Don Worley does do the Jacobson thing. I always wondered why some either had the short fluted hopper and some taller and some vertical and horizontal governors. Ive seen them both ways and mixed.
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Don has all the information on Jacobson worley@westpa.net
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The Titusville engines starter in 1923
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I believe Don Worley does do the Jacobson thing.
I found and looked at the Jacobson web site by Don Worley. Mr Worley is probably the most knowledgeable person when it comes to Jacobson engines. Unfortunately I did not find many answers to my questions on his web site. I think that a Jacobson engine registry along with dated magazine ads with teach us a lot about these great engines.

Your help is required for this project. I can't do it alone as I only have one Jacobson engine.

Your can send me your engine pictures and data for the registry at: buzzcoil2@videotron.ca

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To all Jacobson owners, feel free to call me 814-730-4183 or email at worley@westpa.net.
The Warren Plant burned down in 1923 and the owners of the engine part of he business moved to a vacant plant in Titusville Pa shortly after in 1923. Very few engine were made there. I have factory records from Titusville with some serial numbers. There were about 13000 engines made. Around the time of the move to Titusville the serial numbers were no longer sequential and went as high as 19000 although only around a hundred engines were made. The Warren engines serial numbers ended in the 13000s. Left over parts and tags were used at Titusville. Later they did get some tags made. Years ago a lot of the unused tags were sold. Barnhart-Davis bought the remaining parts and sold them an repaired the engines until the late 60s.
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Don, what is the lowest serial number you have seen or know about on a Jacobson built in Warren? Someone has a 10hp headless, tank cooled with the serial #1820. Can you venture a guess as to the year that engine was made?

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Your help is required for this project. I can't do it alone as I only have one Jacobson engine.

Your can send me your engine pictures and data for the registry at: buzzcoil2@videotron.ca

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As announced I have now started a Registry of Jacobson Machine Mfg. Co. engines here:
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There presently are only 5 engines in it but with you help it can rapidly grow to over 100 engines.

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Hi Denis,
Here is another one!
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Here are 2 ads about Jacobson's 2hp Sturdy Jack pumping engines. I would like to add a few of them to the Jacobson registry and see where they fit in time. I'm looking forward to add your Sturdy Jack to the registry along with the other Jacobson side shaft engines.



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I still have not been able to determine in what year the Jacobson Machine Mfg. Co., engines were first put on the market. Anyone knows? Attached is the oldest Jacobson ad I have (January 12, 1906) and it is from a selling agent in Batavia N.Y.
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Has anyone ever found an ad that shows a table saw mounted engine like the one I posted earlier? I am still intrigued by the design and setup and have uncovered a stenciled number on one of the wooden supports that could be a model or part number. Don thought that Jacobson may have had a sister company in the equipment business that may have built something like this? Would love to find out it is a factory set-up...
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Has anyone ever found an ad that shows a table saw mounted engine like the one I posted earlier? I am still intrigued by the design and setup and have uncovered a stenciled number on one of the wooden supports that could be a model or part number. Don thought that Jacobson may have had a sister company in the equipment business that may have built something like this? Would love to find out it is a factory set-up...
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Brian, that is a beautiful saw set up. I am a cabinet maker and I really appreciate that saw. I saw the pics on the registry for Jacobson Engines as well as on your posting. Do you imagine there was some sort of shield on the side to protect the engine from all the saw dust that would bathe it as it was cutting? As it sits, it looks like the cam gears would get loaded with saw dust. Have you ran some wood with it? If so or if you do, that would make a great video. Thanks for your posting, Leonard
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Here are some pictures and a video of a 5hp Jacobson engine after the company's name was changed to Jacobson Engine Works and had moved to Titusville:
http://buzzcoil.brinkster.net/moody/page104.html

Leonard owns this Jacobson and he is here on Smokstak.

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Hi Leonard,
Thanks for the compliments, this is my pride and joy. The saw is unchanged from the way I found it, minus a bunch of greasy, dirty sawdust. I purchased it from the grand-daughter of the original owner, she said that her grandfather used it to cut siding for buildings around the small town where he lived. It had a pretty extensive crack in the head that I repaired, hence the new paint. I had the original blade sharpened and ripped some boards with it, not fast but it chews thru wood pretty well. It does put a lot of sawdust all over the engine, no sign of shields anywhere.
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Brian, that is a beautiful saw set up. I am a cabinet maker and I really appreciate that saw. I saw the pics on the registry for Jacobson Engines as well as on your posting. Do you imagine there was some sort of shield on the side to protect the engine from all the saw dust that would bathe it as it was cutting? As it sits, it looks like the cam gears would get loaded with saw dust. Have you ran some wood with it? If so or if you do, that would make a great video. Thanks for your posting, Leonard
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We have a 13, 5 and 6 all with vertical fly ball gov. But they are 'Spotless' From the souths mail order house Richmond Va the catlouge looks just like an old sears.
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